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RIP 5820k?

mid_gen

mid_gen

mid_gen

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So, it seems that my trusty 5820k won't be supported by Windows 11.

Anyone know if this is a definite, or there may be workaround for the TPM stuff?
 
it will most likely work its just not recommended. let the guinee pigs test it first. all of ryzen first gen wont be supported either or any cpu over 4 years old. most of em will probably work just not recommended. probably get patched at later date. or they just cant be bothered or not worth it to test on the many cpus of 4 plus years old. win 10 will be fine for a good few years yet regardless.
 
1) Does the Bios have the Firmware version of TPM called PTT on Intel?

2) Is CPU on supported list (lot of BS anyway as may not even be on Win 10 list)?
 
Joxeon said:
I had an old X58 set up that wasn't supported on Windows 10 yet still ran it perfectly fine.
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windows 10 didn't do a firmware check for security support though ha

the windows 11 requirements have absolutely nothing to do with performance, Windows 11 will run on a Core 2 Duo from 2007 just fine if they allowed it
 
mid_gen said:
So, it seems that my trusty 5820k won't be supported by Windows 11.

Anyone know if this is a definite, or there may be workaround for the TPM stuff?
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The "system requirments" for Windows is normally for technical support purposes to cover themselves. Windows 10 doesn't offically support 4th generation Intel processors according to the "requirements" but lots of people use 1st gen and older without any problems. My media PC is running on unsupported hardware without any issues.

Microsoft are just trying to reduce a technical support nightmare. There's just too many hardware combinations to officially test and grant aproval too.

If Microsoft do implement a hardware checker which prohibits install, you can guarantee they'll be a workaround that somebody will discover.
 
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CuriousTomCat said:
The Windows 11 hardware list is just for technical support purposes to cover themselves. Windows 10 doesn't offically support 4th generation Intel processors according to the "requirements" but lots of people use 1st gen and older without any problems. My media PC is running on unsupported hardware without any issues.

Microsoft are just trying to reduce a technical support nightmare. There's just too many hardware combinations to officially test and grant aproval too.
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Agreed.
I assumed it would be more like a QVL instead of a hard block, unlike the GPU market where games just don't load older cards. At least those that don't support modern Direct X versions.
 
Hopefully it'll work then. For various reasons I'll want to be on 11 soon after launch.

Tbh the 5820k is getting to a point now where even low end modern CPUs are a decent upgrade....although I would like to stick it out to DDR5 and the next AMD platform and alder lake at least to see the options....and wait for the silicon supply to ease a bit
 
Windows 11 requires TPM 1.2 support which came out it 2011. Although TPM 2.0 support is "preferred".

There's a bug in the Windows 11 checker tool which only checks for TPM 2.0 support, even though Windows 11 will still install on TPM 1.2 hardware without any problems.
 
CuriousTomCat said:
Windows 11 requires TPM 1.2 support which came out it 2011. Although TPM 2.0 support is "preferred".

There's a bug in the Windows 11 checker tool which only checks for TPM 2.0 support, even though Windows 11 will still install on TPM 1.2 hardware without any problems.
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You better provide some evidence or a quote from Microsoft for that because it's a complete opposite of what they said two days ago
 
Grim5 said:
You better provide some evidence or a quote from Microsoft for that because it's a complete opposite of what they said two days ago
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They've gone back and forth and different MS developers are saying different things on Twitter it is a bit of a mess.
 
I'm quite happy with my 5820k @ 4.5gh. Does everything I want it to do without issue so I don't see any reason to spend north of a grand on an upgrade purely for Win 11 just yet.
My MB does have a TPM slot tho (MSI X99 SLI-Plus)
 
TPM slot on my X79 board as well but I've heard some of these older boards are a bit hit and miss with a 2.0 module.
 
mid_gen said:
Hopefully it'll work then. For various reasons I'll want to be on 11 soon after launch.

Tbh the 5820k is getting to a point now where even low end modern CPUs are a decent upgrade....although I would like to stick it out to DDR5 and the next AMD platform and alder lake at least to see the options....and wait for the silicon supply to ease a bit
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This is exactly the same boat as I am in. I am currently running a xeon 5670,and I I waiting for ddr5 compatible amd to arrive (expected 2022)
 
11400F is likely better than a 5820k or earlier hex cores now, not that you should have to if the current chip is fine.

On this note I don't want to get rid of my Pentium G4560 build, however it will soon be running Steam OS instead of Windows 10 anyway.
 
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The 11400f is definitely a good upgrade over a stock 5820k, but not sure how it stacks up to an average overclock like 4.2ghz. Haven't looked tbh....might get me wanting to upgrade sooner :P
 
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