Soldato
Another decimal place positioning failure.You sure? Those are some wide trains
143.5cm = 4´8 1/2”
RIP Metric System
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143.5cm = 4´8 1/2”
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Caporegime
That's just because you hate the UK, because you're a dangerous lefty with a small penis!!1!!1
77mm sounds much bigger than 3 inches!
Caporegime
Is this really a thing?
Working in oil industry i was using metric and imperial almost mixed daily, different people wanting numbers in different units
Metric has been a thing for 50 60 years?
Changing back to imperial is the dumbest thing I've read today.
Working in oil industry i was using metric and imperial almost mixed daily, different people wanting numbers in different units
Metric has been a thing for 50 60 years?
Changing back to imperial is the dumbest thing I've read today.
Soldato
oops!
Serves me right for doing voice typing.
Is there any truth to the old story that British train gauge was based on English coach dimensions (as the first railway train and carriages were built by horse drawn coach builders) and the English coaches were built to fit the old coach roads laid down by the Romans?
I always had the story ended with something about train gauge being the oldest surviving military specification as it was derived from a Roman war chariot.
Soldato
No research done, but IIRC the first tracks were for rolling stock pulled by horses so the gauge is related to horse drawn carts. Where carts width comes from I assume is about what width worked best for a single horse and I’ll make the reach that was worked out when carts first came about.
Soldato
For many the objection to the continued or reinstated use of the Imperial measurement is not per se a damning of the units themselves, but a political and social stance against Imperialism and national pride. It's an extension of their anti nationalism stance. It would interesting to check if those so vocally opposed to the Imperial units were similarly opposed to the result of the EU referendum
Todays drivel
I prefer metric as its better, and its used basically globally so working for a global manufacturer I see the benefits
I suggest I have just as much national pride as you, I just choose to not align mine with historical irrelevance, misplaced xenophobia and an irrational fear of our nearest geographic neighbours.
Soldato
There were two competing widths as well, the superior (wider) one lost out
Its the earliest VHS vs Betamax play that I know of
Caporegime
It would seem that to some, national pride is intrinsically linked to never progressing beyond the dark ages.Todays drivel
I prefer metric as its better, and its used basically globally so working for a global manufacturer I see the benefits
I suggest I have just as much national pride as you, I just choose to not align mine with historical irrelevance, misplaced xenophobia and an irrational fear of our nearest geographic neighbours.
So being a engineer and not quite old enough to use but felt the ramifications....
BA British Association
BSF British Standard Fine
BSW British Standard Whitworth
UNF Unified Fine
UNC Unified Coarse
UNS Unified Special
BSC British Standard Cycle
BSP Britsh Standard Pipe.
(+ a set of spanners for each)
Or we could just stick with a M6 and either course or fine and one set of spanners.
Going back to imperial is such ******** and backward..... but what to expect from Tory Tossers.
BA British Association
BSF British Standard Fine
BSW British Standard Whitworth
UNF Unified Fine
UNC Unified Coarse
UNS Unified Special
BSC British Standard Cycle
BSP Britsh Standard Pipe.
(+ a set of spanners for each)
Or we could just stick with a M6 and either course or fine and one set of spanners.
Going back to imperial is such ******** and backward..... but what to expect from Tory Tossers.
It would seem that to some, national pride is intrinsically linked to never progressing beyond the dark ages.
I suspect in this case, framing national pride in such a way is merely to get the attention you can't find in a non existent pub.
Permabanned
Ahh, there's the political aspect I mentioned coming out, from an engineer who doesn't know the thread types BSP, UNC and UNF share common hex head flat sizes. As do BSF, BSW and BSC.
So not eight sets of spanners, but three. Each thread form has its place, advantage and disadvantage although Whitworth is often thought to be the best design for structural applications requiring a fairly coarse thread.
Sir Joseph Whitworth invented that thread form, but if you don't like the "Tory Tossers" as you so eloquently describe them, I doubt Whitworth will be much more to your liking, despite his philanthropy to the country in general and Manchester in particular.
Sir Joseph Whitworth, 1st Baronet Bt FRS FRSA (21 December 1803 – 22 January 1887) was an English engineer, entrepreneur, inventor and philanthropist.[2] In 1841, he devised the British Standard Whitworth system, which created an accepted standard for screw threads.[3] Whitworth also created the Whitworth rifle, often called the "sharpshooter" because of its accuracy, which is considered one of the earliest examples of a sniper rifle.[4][5][6][7][8]
Whitworth was created a baronet by Queen Victoria in 1869.[9][10][11] Upon his death in 1887, Whitworth bequeathed much of his fortune for the people of Manchester, with the Whitworth Art Gallery and Christie Hospital partly funded by Whitworth's money. Whitworth Street and Whitworth Hall in Manchester are named in his honour.
Whitworth's company merged with the W.G. Armstrong & Mitchell Company to become Armstrong Whitworth in 1897.
Who are you to dictate what measurement a private business wants to attempt to sell its products in?
Obviously if they started to try and sell products in bottle tops and nobody had bottle tops then it wouldn't get very far would it? The market would self regulate.
In this particular example the businesses wanted to mark both measurements on the items. There is no problem in that whatsoever.
I bet the bartering system would blow your mind
I'm not dictating anything. I'm just pointing out that allowing business to choose how they measure and quantify things is an economically regressive thing to do. You might think that's okay. I don't. I think it's idiotic. I have no problem with both measurements being used. I have a major problem with standard markings and measurements NOT being used.
And yes, the market would/will self-regulate. Resulting in shrinking productivity, GDP, tax take, exports, etc, etc. Increases in costs and unemployment. Brilliant. Bit like Brexit.
Well done for a Wiki post.
But its still 3 sets of spanners...... All i have ever used is 30 years of designing more stuff than i care to remember is metric... Its that simple because it is simple.
Soldato
I wouldnt bother, your discussing with someone who would be promoting the benefits of wattle and daub vs bricks if he realised the chinese invented bricks
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The easily verified correlation between anti tory and anti brexit members here, and them also being against sections of the publics desire to still use British Imperial measurements is of course entirely coincidental
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You have obviously had little to do with aerospace or motorsport engineering then, as Imperial fasteners are still widely used.
The easily verified correlation between anti tory and anti brexit members here, and them also being against sections of the publics desire to still use British Imperial measurements is of course entirely coincidental
nobody is against anyone‘s desire to use anything imperial or not. as usual, you’ve totally missed the point. Coincidental?
Maybe on 1930s bi-plane but that's before my time, every helicopter I have worked on was all metric and every single bit of automotive work i have done is all metric. The only time i use imperial is when i end up farting around with pipe/air fittings for validation/test rigs and its a pain in the arse.