Rock Band 3 - Pro Mode - 102 buttons on 17 frets with 6 strings!

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http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/22/preview-rock-band-3-pro-mode/
There's a video of the new guitar here as well. I love that they're letting "advanced" gamers get into this and almost learning it for real now. Real chords, real strumming... brilliant :cool:

Just playing a guitar isn't hard: you buy a guitar, look at a book to learn a few chords, practice putting your fingers in the right places, and strum away at a song. But playing a guitar professionally is very hard; it takes time and practice and dedication. Likewise, Rock Band is a good time: figure out when to strum, and wail away on some pop tunes with your friends. But Rock Band 3's Pro mode isn't kidding around. It's got a difficulty curve almost as steep as the real thing, and while you still probably won't be able to play stadiums after beating a song on Pro Expert, you'll have a very good idea of what it takes to do so.

We got to play a couple of songs with the Mustang Pro Guitar controller shown off by Harmonix and MadCatz at E3 this week, and it's a beast -- each string of 17 frets on the guitar is an individual button, and there are six strings where the strum bar sits. Harmonix really wanted to make a real guitar as a controller (and it eventually did with the Fender Rock Band 3 Squier), but that "comes with a little bit of baggage of its own" in the form of tuning and calluses. We asked if the developer tried a touch-based system, but reps passed on confirming any prototypes, instead saying that the 102-button setup was the best solution it found.

"This worked for us because it was simple, and the technology is reliable. And in fact, it translates to the medium really well," Harmonix told us. "When you're playing an E shape, it's an E shape, and you're just pressing the buttons." Indeed, the controller feels somewhere between the standard Rock Band guitar and a real electric in size, and the buttons do work -- when you play a G chord or bar across an F chord, it works. The strings have a little less give than a standard guitar, because of course they don't really travel freely across the whole instrument, but otherwise, the buttons are a good simulation of fingering the patterns without actually using the real thing.

Playing the game, however, brings a new set of skills into the mix. Rather than strumming chords (which is what most amateur guitar players probably start with), the game throws single notes at you right away. There are six lines on the screen, and the fret number appears on each note, so you need to hold down the appropriate button (the button you're holding appears at the bottom of the screen on the strum line), and then strum the right string as it comes across. If the note coming at you says 3 on the red line, you need to get your finger on the 3rd fret, first string, and then strum as it goes across.

The mechanic is a little different from the regular game itself -- while the colored buttons have your fingers traveling horizontally across the five buttons, the Pro Guitar has your fingers moving vertically also, so the motion doesn't quite equate to the plastic guitar we've all been using to play these games. Also, the only indicator of which fret you're supposed to be on is a number, so there's an extra bit of cognitive power needed to figure out what button equates to "3," and then get your finger there.

As a result, you're not strumming chords, you're hitting notes. Harmonix says that power chords and chord progression appear at higher Pro difficulties, but even on the Pro Easy setting for more difficult songs you'll be picking specific notes. That makes it harder than just strumming chords, but the bonus is that learning to play the songs in Pro mode means that if you bring the same motions to a real guitar, you'll be able to play an approximation of the real song, even on Pro Easy.

According to Harmonix, if you can pull off 100% on the most difficult Rock Band songs, you'll actually have a head start in Pro mode -- while there will be a little curve on learning the guitar itself, you will soon be able to complete most songs on Pro Easy mode and even some Pro Medium songs.

You can make your way up the curve from there, and while Pro Expert offers up an extreme challenge, Harmonix admits that it's still an abstraction from actually learning the guitar. But there are advantages to trying to "learn" how to play this way -- "it puts it in a game context where you are motivated to do it," we were told, "and we've flattened out the learning curve ... such that you could totally do this for six months and then pick up a guitar." You won't be a high-level shredder, but Rock Band Pro mode is a way "through which skills learned in that game can be applied to stuff outside of the game."

We only played Pro guitar, but Harmonix said it's tuned the drums and keyboard to the same philosophy -- "Expert is effectively note-for-note ... Easy is a very scaled-down version of that, and then Medium is a little hard and Hard is a little harder." Drums will make use of the cymbal add-ons, and the difficulty there is in finding the new motor memory to include new locations in the drumming patterns. Keyboard ramps up the challenge by making full use of the peripheral, and even moving the onscreen note scale to make the physical keys play higher and lower notes on the scale.

Rock Band Pro mode is all about potential. It's about the individual player's potential to move on up to the next, optional level of difficulty in the game, and, eventually, the player's potential to make real music with a real instrument. And as Harmonix reps told us, it seems "designed to show the potential of what the music category can do in gaming" -- if anything can answer that question of whether music games can translate to the real world, this mode will do it.

So there's potential, and plenty of it. We'll have to see if Harmonix's revolution in music gaming can fulfill all of that potential later this year.
 
At this point, I think it does genuinely become fair to say that you should just buy a real guitar.

True story.

Although could be another fun way to learn guitar. I quit learning after about 6 lessons and started a year or so later on my own and learnt myself but it was an uphill struggle!
 
Its sad to think some will get this and think they can play the guitar, just get a real one and put the time in to learn it sheesh.
 
I think its great and sits as a nice transition to a real guitar.

The problem was that people who play a real guitar find guitar hero a bit simple and I think this makes strides to meet their needs whilst allowing the previous generation something to work for.

Personally I do think it would be a better use of time to learn to play the guitar if you are that interested in it, but then again you cant play the guitar online against your friends.

On that thought we are probably also seeing the development of a commercial product into allowing bands to distribute music over this system
 
Remember pro-mode works for drums too :)

Correct cymbal/toms need to be hit although that requires an RB2 drumkit with the cymbals or the ION's :)
 
For those saying just buy a real guitar what about this one then? :p

I heard about that on one of the gaming podcasts I listen to...

It's very clever technology wise, but I don't quite see the point. Watching the video, the guy can clearly play The Hardest Button To Button, and that's quite impressive. Does he need ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED to know he can play that song quite well?
 
Its sad to think some will get this and think they can play the guitar, just get a real one and put the time in to learn it sheesh.
Erm, they're making a real guitar for it, so infact, you WILL be able to play real guitar, the notes on screen match exactly to the real guitar.
 
I'm looking forward to this as the guitar is also midi capable so i'll be able to try out with Slayer once i've 'learnt' it with RB3. I'll also get the midi box so i can use my keyboard with the game n save some cash. :D
 
Great video here showing just how hard its really gonna be :D

You get a good look at how the music is charted as well. To be honest i think the way theyve done it is genuis.

As someone who desperatly wants to learn the guitar but dont really have the time this is going to be fantastic.

That real fender strat is going to be expensive as hell though :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5De9eCH1EU
 
wow, I've played guitar for yearssss and want this, very interested to see how this works, with the real guitar....

wonder if it will have sensors so it knows where your fingers are??
would be pretty impossible to detect what note youre playing just from the tone as you can bend the strings etc to alter the pitch
 
wow, I've played guitar for yearssss and want this, very interested to see how this works, with the real guitar....

wonder if it will have sensors so it knows where your fingers are??
would be pretty impossible to detect what note youre playing just from the tone as you can bend the strings etc to alter the pitch
Yup, the 'real' guitar has sensors in it.
 
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