Rogue or Warrior (wow DPS PVE)

I have heard that shadow priests are getting a large buff again in WOTLK (here is hoping).

As mentioned I will NEVER be asked to tank unless I want to (I will kick anyone in the guild that tries to force me :mad:) seriously though - we have tons of tanks (looking for a good tankadin though) so that isn't an issue.

I don't really want to be a healer at all, I don't mind tanking on rare occasions but I would rather be DPS.

Going to have to do some more research I guess... I actually thought ROGUE DPS would be a lot higher than you guys are saying that it is... are fury warriors (assuming they are both equally geared) going to out DPS a warrior ?

What about if they both have literally no one to help them buff ? in other words they are in a group with 4 priests or something silly (would never happen, but I am trying to figure out how it works)...

I don't really want to be a warlock - the idea of hitting 1 button for shadow bolt all day makes me sad :/
 
If a fury warrior is doing more dps than your rogues he's either exceptionally talented, or your rogues are crap.

Feral DPS has always been one of the weakest points of a druid, but it's the innervate, combat res and leader of the pack buff that makes up for it. After all, it's effectively a melee support class, same as a warrior with thunderclap, imp demo shout and imp battle shout, or an enhance shammy with Windfury totem.
 
Murf said:
If a fury warrior is doing more dps than your rogues he's either exceptionally talented, or your rogues are crap.
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I vote for the latter, unless he's been looking at the meters on Hyjal Trash, where whirlwind, cleave and sweeping strikes beat out a Rogue using blade flurry once every 2 minutes.
 
It boils down like this.

The reason you see conflicting posts above is because Fury Warriors and Rogues are a similar DPS, if both are played properly and have sensible gear. Obviously people are going to be biased towards one or the other based on personal taste and experiences.

The main factor regarding Fury Warriors being rubbish is that they are not really that useful. They are fantastic, sustained DPS. They have 0 down time. They never run out of Rage. Ever. They stack Attack power like it's going out of fashion, they have decent armour and high HP's.

However, they cant crowd control, they cant drop threat, and aside from the odd emergency when the tank dies and you're -><- close to winning so you start taking the damage, they cant really do anything other than DPS.

Rogues can sap and they can drop threat. the DPS however, honestly, is around the same. People who say one or the other is higher honestly havent encountered a proper player in the respective class.

If you really want to DPS, and you want to be at the top of the damage charts, yet not grab aggro, and actually provide something useful to a raid, then you're going to have to pick Mage or Warlock. They really do outstrip everything else at the moment. Of course, this will no doubt change but for now it's the way to go.

Destro warlocks aren't so boring, and they never run out of mana (life tap, life drain every now and then, or drain mana from your imp which you'll be using for the +70stam buff) and you really do get some very large numbers (and the odd insta-gib shadow bolt if you're specced that way). Also Seed of Corruption AoE is awesome :P

Mages, generally Frost, are great DPS, have great crowd control, can refresh cooldowns, and are the pinacle of DPS in a raid. Not forgetting AOE!

Really, it's up to you. Mages and Warlocks will be picked over Rogues and Fury Warriors right now, but who knows what will happen in patches to come.

At the end of the day play what you enjoy the most. If you're a competent player, you'll make it in to raids regardless of class. TBH Ability>Class. I'd sooner take a good player than a necessary one.
 
One thing nobody has mentioned is that gearing a fury warrior can be a lot harder than a rogue (dps warrior gear doesn't shine until t6 level content so you're basically deadweight till then unless you farm badges like a mad man)


Dampcat: i have to question how a destro lock is a) gonna drain mana from their imp when the ability is a 31pt affliction talent and b) is even gonna use an imp.
Also...frost mages as raid dps = no.



Personally for melee dps i'd go rogue or enhancement shaman. If you want the chance to do other things than pure dps then druids are insanely good fun (after lvl50 when you get mangle at least)
 
DampCat said:
then you're going to have to pick Mage or Warlock. They really do outstrip everything else at the moment.
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This is simply not true. Brutallus top dps charts from a couple of weeks back (I can't access the WWS site from work to link) showed the ranking as follows, numbers are approximate and were sustained dps over the max 6 mins before Brutallus enrages:

1. Hunter - c.3050 dps
2. Warglaive Rogue - c.2850 dps
3. Warlock - c.2750dps
4. Warrior - c.2600dps
5. Mage - c.2550 dps

This shows Hunters are currently putting out too much dps and Mages are actually pretty gimped.
 
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