rolling a car in a built up area in a 30 limit

The_Dark_Side · 7 Jul 2007 at 12:30

jamoor said:
As long as you don't fit ditchfinders, you are much safer in a car like that than a paxo, contrary to what insurers believe.

ditchfinders only help poor drivers find said ditches.
high quality rubber is a poor substitute for a lack of ability and understanding and i for one don't want to hear about items that allow crap drivers drive faster than the conditions permit.

Phil W · 7 Jul 2007 at 12:58

The_Dark_Side said:
high quality rubber is a poor substitute for a lack of ability and understanding

As Fox was unfortunate enough to find out

Hawk Tuah · 7 Jul 2007 at 13:08

I dont see how you can roll a car all the way over at 30. I have no doubt they were going a tad quicker than that.

My mate just rolled his Clio last weekend, lost it in the wet going the same speed he normally does on the same road.

Yer, and how fast was that.

The_Dark_Side · 7 Jul 2007 at 14:34

Phil W said:
As Fox was unfortunate enough to find out

that's bit harsh to be honest mate.
Fox made a mistake, and paid the price. we all make mistakes but most of the time we get away with it. what set Fox apart was he held his hands up to the fact it was driver error, and that gets my respect every single time.
it's the fools that claim the accident was caused by everything from divine intervention to OJ simpson that annoy me.

The_Dark_Side · 7 Jul 2007 at 14:36

Bug One said:
I dont see how you can roll a car all the way over at 30. I have no doubt they were going a tad quicker than that.

you'd be very surprised at exactly how easy it can be to roll a car at sub 30 mph. an adverse camber or kerb is usually involved as at such low speeds physics needs a helping hand.

DannyDan · 7 Jul 2007 at 14:43

The_Dark_Side said:
that's bit harsh to be honest mate.
Fox made a mistake, and paid the price. we all make mistakes but most of the time we get away with it. what set Fox apart was he held his hands up to the fact it was driver error

Don't see how it was harsh tbh. All he said is that it was due to lack of ability and understanding, which is surely what driver error amounts to?

PMKeates · 7 Jul 2007 at 14:44

Phil W said:
Actually i thought that was more of a PMKeates quote

I'll harp on about DSC, but I don't think non-existant mechanical build quality has anything to do with car control

The_Dark_Side · 7 Jul 2007 at 14:52

DannyDan said:
Don't see how it was harsh tbh. All he said is that it was due to lack of ability and understanding, which is surely what driver error amounts to?

true, but what's harsh is the fact the incident is brought up over and over again in here.

MrSix · 7 Jul 2007 at 15:40

deko said:
should stick it on your own chest for using "classis".

Touche! I didn't spot that one