Rosberg retires with immediate effect

KiNgPiN83 said:
I think it will be Wehrlein but wish it could be Sainz. I'd like to see him and Verstappen battling in similar machinery next year. I was watching the race on the F1 channel yesterday where he was moaning about wanting to go past Sainz and being a real little bitch about it. :D Then he crashed into the back of Sainz and spun out. Lol
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My vote also.
 
Burned_Alive said:
Vettel and Alonso are non starters, because they both ask for stipulations in their contracts to be the number 1 driver in the team.

I'd really like to see Button take it if only for a year.
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Er, I think either ex WDC would amend that stipulation for the chance to be WDC again . What would you rather, 1st driver at McLaren or 2nd driver at merc??
 
MooMoo444 said:
In an effort for better reliability, Hamilton is taking Rosberg's seat next season, and Rosberg's replacement will get Hamilton's.
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It's like when Schumacher was there. He seemed to have way more mechanical problems than Rosberg. Then when Hamilton joined, I remember people joking about Rosberg's mechanical issues saying that he inherited Schumacher car. Seems Lewis got that car/side of the garage this year.
 
I was looking at previous years the other day and one thing i did notice was that Hamilton has had quite a few over the years. Obviously i didn't look into them all so they may not have all been blow ups but maybe its just because he wrings every last bit of performance out of the car? (This is coming from a Hamilton fan too.) Likewise i doubt Shumacher left anything in the car either.
 
englishpremier said:
It's like when Schumacher was there. He seemed to have way more mechanical problems than Rosberg. Then when Hamilton joined, I remember people joking about Rosberg's mechanical issues saying that he inherited Schumacher car. Seems Lewis got that car/side of the garage this year.
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This year was the first year that Hamilton had Rosberg's old mechanic crew from 2014/2015. One clearly works better than the other.
 
CT aside, you've got to wonder if someone in that garage isn't as good as they think they are. Then again you'd think in an F1 pit garage you'd get found out pretty quickly compared to the usual suspects you get hiding their ineptitude in an office environment.

As for his retirement. Fair enough, he probably feels he has climbed his mountain and won his battle. Now wants to raise his family, whether being an F1 child is a factor in this in wanting to actually raise his child/future children is another matter.
 
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I can't get my head around why F1 hasn't come up with a way to manage two top notch drivers in a single team.

Why is it always perceived to be such a drama to have two huge talents / egos in a single team? Every other sport just picks the best people they can afford.

It adds to the chances of winning both the drivers and constructors championships and if everyone was professional instead of being giant babies, then the pros surely outweigh the cons (subject to the business case of the wage bill).

Friction, in-fighting, increased chance of self-destructive driving not in the overall team's interest, etc. should all be manageable and are outweighed by the greater odds of winning everything, not to mention being spurred on more by having to compete against a better driver. The fight with Rosberg this season brought more out of Hamilton than we would have seen with some submissive number 2 driver.
 
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TrafficMaster said:
No one but the very best will want to be Hamiltons team-mate.

Maybe just 2-3 drivers on the grid. For anyone else, it is career suicide to be shown up like Rosberg was at most races.
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True, though for others it could be the one chance of the odd win that they might never get again (see Heikki Kovalainen, though he was rated rather higher before he joined McLaren).
 
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I can't get my head around why F1 hasn't come up with a way to manage two top notch drivers in a single team.

Why is it always perceived to be such a drama to have two huge talents / egos in a single team? Every other sport just picks the best people they can afford.

It adds to the chances of winning both the drivers and constructors championships and if everyone was professional instead of being giant babies, then the pros surely outweigh the cons (subject to the business case of the wage bill).

Friction, in-fighting, increased chance of self-destructive driving not in the overall team's interest, etc. should all be manageable and are outweighed by the greater odds of winning everything, not to mention being spurred on more by having to compete against a better driver. The fight with Rosberg this season brought more out of Hamilton than we would have seen with some submissive number 2 driver.
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I've often thought the constructors championship should be scrapped. That way we can concentrate on the best driver. However we do get the best driver in the wrong car a lot or the best car driven by a lucky driver.

Single driver teams maybe with spare cars?

Anyway, as an aside, I see Valentino has put his name forward? 44 and 46 for 2017?
Andi.
 
Scrapping that would be a bad idea. For big manufacturers like Ferrari, Mercedes, Renault, the WCC is a big draw to their brand when they win it. They are more interested in that than the drivers title.
 
Participant said:
I can't get my head around why F1 hasn't come up with a way to manage two top notch drivers in a single team.

Why is it always perceived to be such a drama to have two huge talents / egos in a single team? Every other sport just picks the best people they can afford.

It adds to the chances of winning both the drivers and constructors championships and if everyone was professional instead of being giant babies, then the pros surely outweigh the cons (subject to the business case of the wage bill).

Friction, in-fighting, increased chance of self-destructive driving not in the overall team's interest, etc. should all be manageable and are outweighed by the greater odds of winning everything, not to mention being spurred on more by having to compete against a better driver. The fight with Rosberg this season brought more out of Hamilton than we would have seen with some submissive number 2 driver.
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The problem is they all grow up through their racing career as the centre of the universe and the most important thing to ever grace a race track. So then when they are paired with another guy who also grew up as centre of the universe there are problems. Also throw in there that they are mostly cut throat, win at all cost types and you will always have problems. :p ;) :D
 
TrafficMaster said:
No one but the very best will want to be Hamiltons team-mate.

Maybe just 2-3 drivers on the grid. For anyone else, it is career suicide to be shown up like Rosberg was at most races.
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plenty of midfield drivers would jump at the chance, they know the chances of them winning a WDC i pretty much zero. its why many teams have never had an issue filling a 2nd driver position.

However i don't want this option, i want to see Ham up against the best in the same machinery,
 
The only thing slightly entertaining about f1 these days is the driver arguments. Because the racing is utter dross. People get excited after seeing 1 over take these days, that is how bad it has got.

I know i only turned over to watch F1 these days to see what is going off between hammy n rosberg. Even thats gone now...
 
Rybo89 said:
The only thing slightly entertaining about f1 these days is the driver arguments. Because the racing is utter dross. People get excited after seeing 1 over take these days, that is how bad it has got.

I know i only turned over to watch F1 these days to see what is going off between hammy n rosberg. Even thats gone now...
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Even though DRS has manufactured a lot of them these days there are far far more overtakes than there used to be. The regulation changes next year and increased aero are probably going to drop these though.. As an example i was watching a race from 2003 the other day on the F1 channel and literally all the overtakes were done through pit stops. It was far worse than it is now.
 
andicole0 said:
Anyway, as an aside, I see Valentino has put his name forward? 44 and 46 for 2017?
Andi.
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Haha! That would be awesome.
He did drive a Ferrari around for a bit a few years ago and was pretty quick all things considered. But is not an experienced driver in comparison to other options. Even with his rally work.

He is getting too old now though, he'll be 38 by the time the season starts.
 
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KiNgPiN83 said:
Even though DRS has manufactured a lot of them these days there are far far more overtakes than there used to be. The regulation changes next year and increased aero are probably going to drop these though.. As an example i was watching a race from 2003 the other day on the F1 channel and literally all the overtakes were done through pit stops. It was far worse than it is now.
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even in the 90s there wasn't a lot at all. i don't know why some people watch f1, they see to think its a different sport than it is.

if you wnat pure racing, overtaking based on ability, plenty of same spec series which are fr better. F1 is a lot about the tech and evolution over the year. One of those sports where the more you geek out, the better it is.

now the stupid tokens have been removed, im excited for next year, bring on the tech battles.
shame they are still restricting the energy recovery system. should be open or at least far far far more open. there are ways around costs, each supplier has to supply to x-number of teams and can only change a maximum of x-amount, and no supplying last years tech etc.
 
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