Man of Honour
Roundabout fences reducing visibility
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Associate
Few around my area, they even stuck a mound of mud about 10ft high on one island 
Soldato
Good lord, that's shocking.
Rather glad nothing like that's made it up here yet, though admittedly not that we have too many such roundabouts for them to do something so stupid on.
Then again, scotland also doesn't use a NSL sign as they know you would get confused
. They just prefer to stick a number on instead 
Soldato
I've driven that roundabout, possibly with you in the car? That was the first one I ever came across, anyway.
Caporegime
They've done this at J22 of the M1 too
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=M1&...=vxVHuvZi1gjS1PvER1EpOw&cbp=12,287.43,,0,4.82
except they used trees on top of the fence for good measure
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=M1&...=vxVHuvZi1gjS1PvER1EpOw&cbp=12,287.43,,0,4.82
except they used trees on top of the fence for good measure
Exactly. I thought the whole point of roundabouts was to keep the traffic flowing smoothly because people didn't have to come to a stop all the time.
Obviously not anymore
The best thing to do is get a car with really great stopping power and a decent blob of power, then just approach the roundabout swinging from right to left on to it, giving yourself more travelling room in case anything is coming. Most of the time you can power on in front/just about slow down behind if anything is there.Exactly. I thought the whole point of roundabouts was to keep the traffic flowing smoothly because people didn't have to come to a stop all the time.
Obviously not anymore
Man of Honour
Quite possibly mate, it's the slippery roundabout onto the M1 at J23 just up the road from here.
Soldato
They are there to reduce speed entering onto a roundabout, if you stop due to them they have proven the point that you were entering the roundabout too fast...
The ones i've encountered force you to stop, you are quite literally blind until you reach the line, you'd have to be bordering on suicidal to not stop, regardless of how you drive really. Most of the posted examples seem to give visibility about 3 or 4 car lengths back, the ones i've come across don't.
Soldato
The ones this way are tall, green and have chevron lines on them - i dont think you could makes them any bigger and yet you still dont need to stop - i iwll try and find a pic.
Soldato
Theres a roundabout near here with the green plastic boards installed, means you have to slow right down to see, whereas before you could judge it right and barely touch the brakes.
It's stupid, all the advanced driving books I've seen taught you to judge your speed on approach to the roundabout so you arrived in a gap and didn't have to stop. Now you can't do that, and it slows all the traffic flow down needlessly.
It's stupid, all the advanced driving books I've seen taught you to judge your speed on approach to the roundabout so you arrived in a gap and didn't have to stop. Now you can't do that, and it slows all the traffic flow down needlessly.
another one in Salisbury
http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&h...d=wyZoj1_eQTexr4qyhRceOQ&cbp=12,251.03,,0,6.4
http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&h...d=wyZoj1_eQTexr4qyhRceOQ&cbp=12,251.03,,0,6.4
Soldato
Bizarre!
Man of Honour
That's only on motorways, all other roads have NSL signs.Then again, scotland also doesn't use a NSL sign as they know you would get confused
Associate
When I read the OP this is the first roundabout that sprang to mind. I used to cross that roundabout every day on the way to work, and the shear stupidity of it always annoyed me.
Soldato
I was really hoping to find something by reading the DMRB, Volume 6, Subsection 2, Part 3, Paragraph 8.8 but alas it shows that they only need to provide visibility to the right for a distance of 15m from the Give Way line.
In fact it goes as far as to suggest that erecting such fences to impair visibility is desireable
http://www.standardsforhighways.co.uk/dmrb/vol6/section2.htm
In fact it goes as far as to suggest that erecting such fences to impair visibility is desireable
http://www.standardsforhighways.co.uk/dmrb/vol6/section2.htm
Soldato
This one annoys me as well, it's local
http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&h....01&ll=51.340628,-0.473961&spn=0,0.01929&z=16 (looks lower than it is due to the perspective)
Shrubbery carelessly planted in the divider, just about OK if you're in a "normal" car (that is until someone in a high up car doesn't see a low slung Elise or something already on the roundabout and in a 'blind spot', for example...) but I havent got a hope of seeing over it in the MX5 and I have to come to a stop almost
http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&h....01&ll=51.340628,-0.473961&spn=0,0.01929&z=16 (looks lower than it is due to the perspective)
Shrubbery carelessly planted in the divider, just about OK if you're in a "normal" car (that is until someone in a high up car doesn't see a low slung Elise or something already on the roundabout and in a 'blind spot', for example...) but I havent got a hope of seeing over it in the MX5 and I have to come to a stop almost
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