Router advice - DSL-AC68U or DSL-AC88U ?

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I've been running a AC68U for the last 4 years and it's been great. It has now failed - two network ports and the VDSL modem all failed.

Do I simply buy another one or is the 88U worth teh extra - I know that the 88 supports g.fast but that is unlikely to be an issue for some time where I live.

Any other good reasons to go for the 88 over the 68 ?

Any other VDSL router I should be considering?

I use the multiple wifi networks feature - (kids have their own that can get turned off!, plus guest network is great for their friends)
 
Before you do anything, consider that what you had is probably the single most complained about networking product OCUK has ever seen.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...sus-dsl-ac68u.18606945/page-154#post-29361968

Also that the company who you are supporting thinks it’s OK to fake FCC results for certification and leave horrible security holes unpatched for years, in both cases they were fined eye watering amounts of money and forced to agree to decades of external auditing. If you’re still happy to go ahead with either option, then good luck.
 
Asus received a slap on the wrists from the FCC back in 2015 for 'cheating'. For that, the fine was only for $240,000, which I doubt they even noticed, and a three year compliance agreement.

When were they fined/punished for the second time? Google 'asus fined' doesn't turn up anything obvious. Honestly interested as you seem to mention this every time Asus crops up.

I'd agree that the DSL-AC68U was a bit of a trainwreck. I'm not aware of any of their other routers having problems to anywhere near the same extent.
 
Funny - I remember having very few issues with the DSL-AC68U - bought it to sit on my Zen VDSL line and it was good as gold until 4 years later it went pffttt last wekend.

The DSL-AC88U has a different DSL chipset AFAIK and seems to review pretty highly (whatever that means - not much I guess).

Anyway - the 88U turned up earlier today. It came up with no issues - and 7 hours later has not dropped once and shows 65Mbps down and 20Mbps up so not too shabby.

@Avalon - if you have links to issues that I should be aware of I would be very grateful.
 
Asus received a slap on the wrists from the FCC back in 2015 for 'cheating'. For that, the fine was only for $240,000, which I doubt they even noticed, and a three year compliance agreement.

When were they fined/punished for the second time? Google 'asus fined' doesn't turn up anything obvious. Honestly interested as you seem to mention this every time Asus crops up.

I'd agree that the DSL-AC68U was a bit of a trainwreck. I'm not aware of any of their other routers having problems to anywhere near the same extent.

At least someone notices. If a company makes crap products and fails to make even the most basic effort to resolve known issues, I believe in calling them out and buying products from OEM’s who make reasonable efforts to update glaring security holes (ASUS BIOS update fiasco recent enough for you? They failed to notice they were effectively distributing malware for at least 5 months https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/asus-malware-attack/ ). If people still want to buy that brand fully aware of the history then that’s up to them.

It wasn’t just the DSL-AC68 that used the MediaTek chipset, the previous N range did as well, same issues plagued it, they are well known for an issue where one or more of the switch ports fails, sound familiar?

The security audit judgement:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/23/asus_router_flaws_settlement/

https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/cases/160222asusagree.pdf

The settlement on the FCC faked reports:
https://www.fcc.gov/document/asustek-pay-240k-resolve-equipment-marketing-investigations

Firstly every networking kit provider has issues, that’s to be expected, what’s normal (as you know) is that updates flow quickly and resolve the issues, ideally prior to public disclosure or as soon as reasonably possible following. ASUS don’t do that, it’s not normal to leave known security holes unpatched on current gen products for years, they weren’t obscure, this is fundamentally basic stuff. The only time it does choose to patch, is when a large retail partner threatens to pull its distribution, it then only really cares when it’s forced agree to pay to be audited for the next two decades - i’m not aware of any other networking OEM who’s had a similar outcome over two decades, ever.

The link in my first post above details the MediaTek modem issues, funny thing is other OEM’s used the same chipset, but managed to fix the issues relatively quickly, ASUS said they would, strung people along for years, then didn’t. Oh and faking FCC certification data is just lazy. Combine this with the well documented RMA fiasco’s for everything they sell and I have to ask, would you really choose to have an ASUS router keeping your data safe?
 
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