Router via Slave Socket

Samuel Luke Kelly · 31 Mar 2017 at 16:47

Hi All,
New here, I recently ran a cable from my Master BT point to the bedroom, I connected up a modem/router and turned it on but the DSL and internet connectivity light didn't come on.

Can I run a router off a slave point or can it only work from the master bt?

Regards,
Sam

Sp00n · 31 Mar 2017 at 17:27

Yes It should work if you've wired it correctly, you'll get degraded speeds and you'd be better off having the extension on the lan side in terms of sync speed.

Have you checked the socket works with a phone? Filtered faceplate or dsl filter installed?

APM · 31 Mar 2017 at 18:22

Do you need a filter for the router or is that only for the phone?

bremen1874 · 31 Mar 2017 at 18:46

The router side of the connection is always unfiltered.

Samuel Luke Kelly · 31 Mar 2017 at 19:28

Sp00n said:
Yes It should work if you've wired it correctly, you'll get degraded speeds and you'd be better off having the extension on the lan side in terms of sync speed.

Have you checked the socket works with a phone? Filtered faceplate or dsl filter installed?

I used 2 pair 4 core, should I have used normal cat5 with the 4 pairs? I just have a slave socket with a dsl filter plugged in.

Caged · 31 Mar 2017 at 19:52

Take a photo of your master

bremen1874 · 31 Mar 2017 at 20:37

You only need a single pair connected. You'd usually use Cat5e or CW1308. What have you used?

APM · 31 Mar 2017 at 22:46

Try it without the filter then.

Samuel Luke Kelly · 31 Mar 2017 at 23:22

bremen1874 said:
You only need a single pair connected. You'd usually use Cat5e or CW1308. What have you used?

I just used some 2 pair 4 core that I bought from screwfix. I connected the blue pair in to 2 & 5, and tried it with just that and also tried it with the blue and the orange connected.

I'll upload a photo of the master socket tomorrow. The master socket has a full 4 pair connected into it.

bremen1874 · 31 Mar 2017 at 23:28

You only need a single pair connected. Anything else will potentially make things worse.

The extension wiring needs to be connected to the unfiltered side of the master socket (assuming it's filtered).

What did you buy from Screwfix? It must have a catalogue number.

Samuel Luke Kelly · 1 Apr 2017 at 00:42

bremen1874 said:
You only need a single pair connected. Anything else will potentially make things worse.

The extension wiring needs to be connected to the unfiltered side of the master socket (assuming it's filtered).

What did you buy from Screwfix? It must have a catalogue number.

cat number: 18134
I think its an unfiltered ms with a filter plugged in

bremen1874 · 1 Apr 2017 at 00:50

That cable doesn't appear to be twisted pair. Fine for voice, near useless for data.

If it isn't marked/sold as CW1308 (Cat3) or better don't use it.

Even with junk cable you should get some sort of connection. If you aren't getting anything there could be something else going on.

Samuel Luke Kelly · 1 Apr 2017 at 09:37

bremen1874 said:
That cable doesn't appear to be twisted pair. Fine for voice, near useless for data.

If it isn't marked/sold as CW1308 (Cat3) or better don't use it.

Even with junk cable you should get some sort of connection. If you aren't getting anything there could be something else going on.

Hmm, the roll i picked up was twisted, but think it is purely telephone cable. Do you think it will be worth replacing it with some cat5?

pepp77 · 1 Apr 2017 at 09:41

You can either use a cat5e cable and just use on of the pairs or something like - http://www.cablemonkey.co.uk/telephone-cable/9488-cw1308-internal-phone-cable.html. Smallest it comes in from there is 3 pairs at 40p per metre, but again you would just use one of the pairs.

Samuel Luke Kelly · 1 Apr 2017 at 11:26

pepp77 said:
You can either use a cat5e cable and just use on of the pairs or something like - http://www.cablemonkey.co.uk/telephone-cable/9488-cw1308-internal-phone-cable.html. Smallest it comes in from there is 3 pairs at 40p per metre, but again you would just use one of the pairs.

I'll have a look, cheers mate. I'll let you know how it goes

Samuel Luke Kelly · 3 Apr 2017 at 20:22

pepp77 said:
You can either use a cat5e cable and just use on of the pairs or something like - http://www.cablemonkey.co.uk/telephone-cable/9488-cw1308-internal-phone-cable.html. Smallest it comes in from there is 3 pairs at 40p per metre, but again you would just use one of the pairs.

I tried today using a short length of cat5e and the DSL light on the router was flashing but it didn't stay permanently on, Thoughts?

bremen1874 · 3 Apr 2017 at 20:24

Post of photo of your wiring showing how it's connected.

Samuel Luke Kelly · 3 Apr 2017 at 20:40

bremen1874 said:
Post of photo of your wiring showing how it's connected.

I took my wires out before I took the photo but I only used to blue pair and wired it, blue -2 blue/white - 5.

Caged · 3 Apr 2017 at 20:51

That's not your master. Take a photo of your master socket.

Samuel Luke Kelly · 3 Apr 2017 at 20:59

Caged said:
That's not your master. Take a photo of your master socket.

I'm sure that is the master, it's where everything is plugged in.