RTX 4090 coldfeet!

[PaulW]

Hi,

Looking here for more advice / sanity check than anything else i have a build pretty much fleshed out. With a 4090 at the heart of it. However with the fact that the 4090 hasn't moved in price and it takes up 48% of my budget is it worth getting a second hand "tide me over" card till the 50 series is out rather than spilling 1.6k. i could then sell the "tide me over" card and replace with a 50 series.

What are my reasons for this....
-- Getting a 3080 or somthing around £500 would save 1k to spend on a 50 series (recommendations welcome)
-- The 4090 only has DP 1.4a
-- 50 series rumored to be 70% faster than the 40 ( 5090 at least)
-- A cheaper card would do for now for what i need.


the rest of the build would be this

Case	Lian Li O11 Air Mini - Black
CPU	Ryzen 9 7950X
RAM 64gb	G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 64GB 6000MHz CL30 DDR5 Memory - AMD Expo
GCard	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming OC 24GB
PWR Supply	MSI MPG A1000G PCIE5 UK PSU 1000W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply
CPU cooler	NH-U12A chromax.black
Motherboard	ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-E
HDD M2 2tb	Samsung 990 Pro 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe 1.3c Solid State Drive

MOBO still TBD ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-E / MSI MPG X670E Carbon WiFi / Asrock B650E Taichi Lite

Thanks

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[Ayahuasca]

What monitor are you going to be using and what games take up most of your playtime?

 

[Joxeon]

Depends what you want the pc for but looking at your component list there would be a lot of savings possible.

 

[opethdisciple]

Are you just gaming?

Do you really need a 7950x?

For gaming I'd save a bit and get a 7800x3d.

The 3ds are the gaming cpus of choice.

 

[PaulW]

atm i have a older 2k 144hz LG. but eventually would want a 4k or an ultra wide or 2x4k monitors

 

[adam98150]

You've got to think the 5 series might be better but will likely be more expensive (again). There's always going to be new components just around the corner. The 4090 should last for years to come. If a cheaper card will do for now I'd probably go down that route instead of dropping 1.6k.

 

[PaulW]

Do you really need a 7950x?

no its for 3D content work, 3d modeling, unreal 5, rendering, video work. gaming is secondary. if it was just for gaming i'd get 7800x3d and a xtx

 

[PaulW]

what games take up most of your playtime

Valheim atm, with a GTX780 thats about all i can play lol

 

[Joxeon]

You can get gpus like the 4070/7800XT for just over £500 and they are around half the speed of a 4090, they won’t be good enough for 4k high refresh but they’ll be fine for 2k so I guess it depends on when you plan to upgrade the monitor. Also if you go on to sell one of those cards and get a 5090 then you’ll only lose a couple of hundred quid at most.

 

[PaulW]

you’ll only lose a couple of hundred quid at most

yeah this is my thinking for now. Black friday might be a good time to snatch a deal on one of these as well

 

[mickyflinn]

yeah this is my thinking for now. Black friday might be a good time to snatch a deal on one of these as well

Take a look at the Zotac models they come with a 5 year warranty if registered within 30 days otherwise 3 years.

 

[PaulW]

have just read that the 50 series looks to be 2025 with the new road map. maybe that is to long. I was hoping for 2024.

 

[Devious]

I kind of wish I had gone for the 4090 at launch now but as the price hasn't dropped I don't think i could pay full price now a year later. i managed to get a 4080 under £800 6 months ago so OK for now.

I will definitely buy a 5090 at launch this time if its a similar price as it may be the last top tier graphics card for years the way AI is going.

 

[Jay85]

If the 5090 wasn't coming out till ETA 2025, i would have waited for it but to wait nearly 2 years for something to come out and have something tide me over for that period is not gonna fair well. Get the 4090 and be done with it and just be happy that it'll pretty much play anything you throw at it and content/3D creation.

 

[Quartz]

is it worth getting a second hand "tide me over" card till the 50 series is out rather than spilling 1.6k.

You can always wait. Or you can buy now and start working and having fun. But the 50 series cards are due in 2025, not 2024; Nvidia are moving to a 3 year cycle. Given your other uses and their love of VRAM, I think your GPU selection is restricted to the 4090, 3090, 3090 Ti, and the RX 7900XTX. Which you should get depends upon the value you place on RT and (in gaming) DLSS.

 

[chris85oc]

Nope. Just get the 4090. 5xxx series is 2025 material so unless you are a patient bear…

Plus 4090 might seem overkill for 1440p 144 hz, however if you plan on playing Rt heavy games like cyberpunk, alan wake II and who knows what else until 2025 then it’s pretty much the only option to have good performance with no/least visual compromises.

Personally i got the 4090 and while i had some doubts before… after buying and using it for several months now i have no regrets. I know that if i got anything less i would have been dissatisfied 100%.

 

[dave28]

i would wait at this point, surely 4080 Ti and 7950XTX cards are on the way

 

[drakulton]

Socks may help.

 

[PaulW]

surely 4080 Ti and 7950XTX cards are on the way

When, any rumoured dates or prices?

 

[PaulW]

nd the RX 7900XTX

Unfortunatly AMD support for content creators like myself is far behind Nvidia atm. so really my only option is a Nvidia card. This is a shame as i am growing in fondness for the team Red & Blue cards.