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hi guys,

I am after a new laptop, looking at the rtx 3080 / 3070 but it so hard to work out which is best for me ! It does not seem so simple as buying my last laptop !

Apparently the 3070 can run faster than a 3080 with correct TDP. How does the customer know what they are buying without the TDP's being clearly listed on the specs?

as 3080 are so much more expensive is seems ludicrous that a 3070 could out perform a 3080 with the same cpu ram ect.

any help would be great.

tonal


https://www.notebookcheck.net/Performance-Test-GeForce-RTX-3070-Laptop-RTX-3080-Laptop.516953.0.html

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/look-closely-before-you-buy-a-geforce-rtx-3000-laptop
 
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This shows you the tdp and relative performance of each card.
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Over time this spreadsheet will be updated with details on what’s in each laptop https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Hd8gyF3d7Y2p4d2_b5cQ2KJ2DQ2eXtVN8INcdXbeuT8/htmlview

To confuse things further there are also 150+15W versions.
 
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Thank you for this, but how do I know which gpu / top (w) each different laptop/laptop maker is using? It seems that this information is hidden from the consumer atm.

I mean are we saying that a 80 w 3080 q-max gpu is out performed by the 115/120/125 3070?

I just don't want to fork out for a 3080 and find that a much cheap laptop with a 3070 out performs it. how are the laptops with the 80w 3080 allowed to be advertised as top of the range ?


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Thank you Eluktonics !

this is kind of info I need to help me buy. Guess some manufacturers will not make this info clear because have built systems with low w 3080.
  • AMD Ryzen 7 5800H 8 Cores - 16 Threads (3.2-4.4GHz Max Boost Clock) + 16GB GDDR6 VRAM NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 (Max-P TDP: 115 Watts, OC Options: TGP Adjustable up to 135 Watts + 15 Watts via Dynamic Boost for a maximum of 150 Watts!*)
 
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Thank you for this, but how do I know which gpu / top (w) each different laptop/laptop maker is using? It seems that this information is hidden from the consumer atm.

I mean are we saying that a 80 w 3080 q-max gpu is out performed by the 115/120/125 3070?

I just don't want to fork out for a 3080 and find that a much cheap laptop with a 3070 out performs it. how are the laptops with the 80w 3080 allowed to be advertised as top of the range ?


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Some reviewers will determine the wattage. Also that spreadsheet i linked to has the wattage and more will be added as they are known. A 3070 and 3080 at similar wattage will still favour the 3080 but if there is enough of a gap then it will swing to the 3070 (as shown in that image earlier). I would still want to look at the benchmarks as 2 different systems with the same card can have different performance due to the cooling solution used.
 
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Pretty please so far with my MSI GE66, the 3070 is boosting to over 1900 which is quite a bit more than the stated 1620, still to try any games on it as i've been setting it up all day since it arrive and still got 70gb left on Warzone
 
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Pretty please so far with my MSI GE66, the 3070 is boosting to over 1900 which is quite a bit more than the stated 1620, still to try any games on it as i've been setting it up all day since it arrive and still got 70gb left on Warzone

Kind of my point ! That sounds like your 3070 is going to out perform a 80 w 3080 at much less cost !

Did MSI tell you the clock speed 1620 or the TDP before you purchase the laptop or did you get lucky ?

UK trading standards law

"The right to be informed – to be given the facts needed to make an informed choice, and to be protected against dishonest or misleading advertising and labelling."
 
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Kind of my point ! That sounds like your 3070 is going to out perform a 80 w 3080 at much less cost !

Did MSI tell you the clock speed 1620 or the TDP before you purchase the laptop or did you get lucky ?

UK trading standards law

"The right to be informed – to be given the facts needed to make an informed choice, and to be protected against dishonest or misleading advertising and labelling."
no it just showed up in gpu-z as boost speed from 1215 stock, one of the competitors website had it listed at 1620 boost if I recall, some places had it down as max q some didnt, i dont think it is max q but its hard to tell, msi specs on website are pretty poor, at the end of the day its a 15.6" laptop i would never expect it to be as good as a 3070 desktop, i'll just be interested to see how games perform on it compared to my desktop (currently i7 8600k and rtx 2080)
 
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I think at this point the customer is not being given the facts to make an informed choice by some laptop makers, leading to misleading advertising. It should be very clear from the overclockers website/makers specs what you are buying, not hidden of 3rd party spreadsheet or review sites.
 
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