RTX2060 spotted

[ljt]

Well the 1060 6gb was launched at $249 for AIB and $299 for FE. So they have added $100 for AIB models this time around.

The 60 series target market is much more price sensitive than say the 80 series, so to add $100 is a significant increase in price for even less of a performance leap than it was between 9 and 10 series

 

[Shaz12]

Until AMD starts competing with nvidia, I really wouldn’t expect much performance improvement over generations as nvidia is simply too far ahead of amd for nvidia to even break a sweat. AMD’s best card can barely hang with the 2070 and the 2080ti is leagues ahead.

 

[JediFragger]

Same with AMD. Vega at launch was priced wrong, at the moment they look pretty good.

Yup, the market (eventually) sets the prices

 

[JediFragger]

But I'm still going to skip these overpriced Turing turkeys.

Yup, Pascal>7nm is the way to go (or even beyond that!)

 

[Marine-RX179]

But why would you?

Anyone on a 10 series like a 1070 (or higher) card has no real reason to upgrade (from a performance standpoint) and should just skip this Turing generation.

For someone like me on a 970, the upgrade would be worthwhile, with a more than doubling of performance at roughly the same price as I paid for my 970 in 2014.

..But I'm still going to skip these overpriced Turing turkeys.

But skipping Turing won't address the issue of performance stagnation in terms of performance per £ after 2 years have passed...

Nvidia have gotten Intel into their DNA

 

[4K8KW10]

Until AMD starts competing with nvidia, I really wouldn’t expect much performance improvement over generations as nvidia is simply too far ahead of amd for nvidia to even break a sweat. AMD’s best card can barely hang with the 2070 and the 2080ti is leagues ahead.

AMD competes well with the RX 590 that obliterates any GTX 1060.
RX Vega 64 needs to compete with GTX 1080, while RTX is a new generation and AMD has no corresponding products yet.

 

[Marine-RX179]

Until AMD starts competing with nvidia, I really wouldn’t expect much performance improvement over generations as nvidia is simply too far ahead of amd for nvidia to even break a sweat. AMD’s best card can barely hang with the 2070 and the 2080ti is leagues ahead.

That's what we thought about AMD vs Intel as well.

In order for AMD gain on Nvidia, other than just catching-up, it would require Nvidia to trip themselves over like the scenario of Intel did with the whole 10nm no-show debacle.

History has proved ATI/AMD cannot compete with Nvidia even when they had the faster cards months to half year ahead of Nvidia. It's just the case that majority of the people that buy Nvidia will just buy Nvidia, unless there's something there's they are seriously unhappy with that they would even start the process of initial consideration of alternative; performance itself or who wins who loses is a lesser consideration.

 

[4K8KW10]

That's what we thought about AMD vs Intel as well.

In order for AMD gain on Nvidia, other than just catching-up, it would require Nvidia to trip themselves over like the scenario of Intel did with the whole 10nm no-show debacle.

History has proved ATI/AMD cannot compete with Nvidia even when they had the faster cards months to half year ahead of Nvidia. It's just the case that majority of the people that buy Nvidia will just buy Nvidia, unless there's something there's they are seriously unhappy with; performance itself is a lesser consideration.

Although, with the recent pricing jacking by nvidia and the dark actions on their partners program, I see more and more people begin to see the proper choice - and it is Radeon.

 

[Marine-RX179]

Although, with the recent pricing jacking by nvidia and the dark actions on their partners program, I see more and more people begin to see the proper choice - and it is Radeon.

Fact is though those of us that talk about and discuss about graphic card on the internet only account for minor proportion of the overall sales of the graphic card in the industry though. The chances are even if any single person that discuss about graphic cards on the internet bought AMD, it still not going to tip the scale and Nvidia still going to shift overall more cards

 

[4K8KW10]

Fact is though those of us that talk about and discuss about graphic card on the internet only account for minor proportion of the overall sales of the graphic card in the industry though. The chances are even if any single person that discuss about graphic cards on the internet bought AMD, it still not going to tip the scale and Nvidia still going to shift overall more cards

AMD needs 2 or 3 generations of graphics cards that at least match nvidia's performance and you will see how the market share will shift accordingly.
I am not talking about quality and nvidia, many users don't understand that matter

 

[Marine-RX179]

AMD needs 2 or 3 generations of graphics cards that at least match nvidia's performance and you will see how the market share will shift accordingly.
I am not talking about quality and nvidia, many users don't understand that matter

Performance is not easy to be compared objectively, and with Nvidia's DLSS it certainly doesn't make it any easier.

Also remember how back then 1920x1080 res benchmark were done with comparing results of cards at that res with both 0xAA and 4xAA results, where Nvidia always lose more frame rate % wise comparing to ATI's equivalent offering due to the lower memory bandwidth along with possibly smaller memory bus size?

Nowadays pretty much most of the big review sites only 1920 res with 0xAA results, and giving Nvidia better performance representation vs AMD than what users would typically get in actual gaming environment (since pretty much everyone would use at least 4xAA for 1920 res).

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Until AMD starts competing with nvidia, I really wouldn’t expect much performance improvement over generations as nvidia is simply too far ahead of amd for nvidia to even break a sweat. AMD’s best card can barely hang with the 2070 and the 2080ti is leagues ahead.

AMD won't even top the old 1080Ti, as even thats over 30% faster than their 64, so they'll need a card at least that, then some, anyone see it, as i can't.