Run your car on water...
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Depends on what your ground for feasibility are. Lowering CO2? yup, but not removing it entirely. Replacement for fossil fuels? no.
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Water is a molecules not an atom... You wouldn't want your car to split atoms!
People who think that electric cars are being held back by greedy oil companies are deluded!
It occurred to me this morning that the whole "car running on water" thing is pretty dumb. If you're burning hydrogen and oxygen, you generate energy by virtue of the fact that the two combine to form water. If you're creating the fuel by splitting water in the first place, then you can't get more energy out of the system than you've put into it in the first place. You can't get more energy out of the hydrogen and oxygen by burning it than you put into splitting the molecule up. That's just physics.
The only reason for electrolysing water is that it's a simple way of obtaining lots of hydrogen. That doesn't mean that burning the hydrogen as fuel is a good idea, especially if you'd have just been better off using the electricity you had in the first place.
The only reason for electrolysing water is that it's a simple way of obtaining lots of hydrogen. That doesn't mean that burning the hydrogen as fuel is a good idea, especially if you'd have just been better off using the electricity you had in the first place.
yes, you're right.
but, the energy used to convert the water into its component gases can come from a variety of sources, such as hydroelectric, geothermal and solar.
the water can be splitup into H and O2 at the location of the power facility, then piped to whereever its needed.
i was talking to a friend about this recently. as far as i can see, using leccy to convert water into hydrogen, then burning the hydrogen to create water + heat is inefficient, but its basically a condensation of the energy density.
lets say that, to power a car for 20 mins you need 2000J. that 2000J can come from any source, but to generate that 2000J using solar cells, they'd need to weigh 200KG. the same amount of energy can be supplied by, say 1 litre of gasoline, or two litres of Hydrogen, and batteries to store the 2000J would weigh 100KG
what i'm trying to say is that aslong as renewable/non-fossil-fuel based powerstations are used to generate the electricity used to split the water into H and O2, then it's an excellent substitute for traditional fuels.
Look at the other vids of him on the tube, there's a pt1+2 vid that's good, and explains that he's using only half an amp! Very high voltage, very high frequency and next to no current. Because of this, the temperature of the water didn't change over half an hour, where normal electrolysis raises the temperature of the water a degree every few seconds.
Apart from anything else, why do you think he was killed if his invention wasn't viable?
anybody can make outlandish claims on film - doesn't make it true. A clear sign that he is stupid is his claim of a new gas HHO - thats just stupid and scientifically incorrect. If his idea had anything good about it, it would have been snapped up by a company in seconds - the fact that he has been pushing this for years and had lots of media exposure and yet no company will touch it means that proper scientists have already looked at it and deemed it unworkable or simply false.
is he dead? i didn't know that, but its hardly a conspiracy - stupid people get killed everyday
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The future is back to steam, after all its steam that gives the power to run your PC
regardless of power stations using oil/gas or nuclear its still just to boil the water to run the turbines.
Japan are testing steam engines as are BMW, once the powerpack is developed to instantly convert water to steam the way ahead will be clear
regardless of power stations using oil/gas or nuclear its still just to boil the water to run the turbines.
Japan are testing steam engines as are BMW, once the powerpack is developed to instantly convert water to steam the way ahead will be clear
Completely agree, the economically illiterate i like to call them.
I think in the case of Stan Myers his system worked by using a special type of "pulse" electrolysis and that is where the secret was supposed to lie. I'm guessing this technique meant that he spend far less energy separating the molecules.
Funny how nobody has managed to replicate it yet however
Funny how nobody has managed to replicate it yet however
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People like Stanley Meyer are basically frauds who would get laughed at by your average undergraduate student. Look up 'Water fuel cell' on wikipedia to see, here are a few extracts.
'The water fuel cell is a device invented by American Stanley Meyer, which he claimed could convert water into its component elements, hydrogen and oxygen, using less energy than can be obtained by the subsequent combustion of those elements. If the device operates as claimed, the water produced by the combustion of the hydrogen and oxygen could be recovered and reused, allowing the device to run as a perpetual motion machine and thereby violating the first law of thermodynamics'
'Stanley Meyer died at the age of 57 after eating at a restaurant on 21 March 1998. An autopsy report by Franklin County coroner William R. Adrion concluded that Meyer, who suffered from high blood pressure, had died of a cerebral aneurysm. Conspiracy theories persist, however, that he was poisoned, and that oil companies and the United States government were involved in his death. It is argued that this was done to supress the technology, in spite of the fact complete plans remain available online. To date, no one has used them to produce a working prototype'
Unfortunately the media likes to pick up on so-called Science such as this which claims big things but is fundamentally flawed. Just look up Eric Drexler and his nano-technology ideas... Such things give the general public false ideas of what is achievable
'The water fuel cell is a device invented by American Stanley Meyer, which he claimed could convert water into its component elements, hydrogen and oxygen, using less energy than can be obtained by the subsequent combustion of those elements. If the device operates as claimed, the water produced by the combustion of the hydrogen and oxygen could be recovered and reused, allowing the device to run as a perpetual motion machine and thereby violating the first law of thermodynamics'
'Stanley Meyer died at the age of 57 after eating at a restaurant on 21 March 1998. An autopsy report by Franklin County coroner William R. Adrion concluded that Meyer, who suffered from high blood pressure, had died of a cerebral aneurysm. Conspiracy theories persist, however, that he was poisoned, and that oil companies and the United States government were involved in his death. It is argued that this was done to supress the technology, in spite of the fact complete plans remain available online. To date, no one has used them to produce a working prototype'
Unfortunately the media likes to pick up on so-called Science such as this which claims big things but is fundamentally flawed. Just look up Eric Drexler and his nano-technology ideas... Such things give the general public false ideas of what is achievable