Russian Grand Prix 2016, Sochi - Race 4/21

Lewis Hamilton has hit out at what he considers are unduly harsh decisions by Formula One race stewards. The Mercedes driver and reigning champion, who finished second in the Russian Grand Prix, was given his second reprimand of the season after qualifying and will face a 10-place grid penalty should he receive a third.


“I’m just aware there’s most likely going to be one 10-place grid penalty because I’ve got one more reprimand to go,” he said. “The last one was bloody ridiculous.”

Hamilton was censured in Sochi for going wide at turn two during qualifying and not, as required, heading to the left to go round a bollard, to ensure no time advantage was gained. The other reprimand came in Bahrain for reversing in the pit lane.
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Continues to be happy ;)
 
TO be honest, some of the marshal calling for a lot of the drivers has been utterly daft, reversing 50cm in the pit lane after a race when no clear indication of where to drive gets you one of three reprimands lol?
Wasn't it Sykes that got a 10sec penalty for basically racing?

F1 is looking really stupid right now over all.
Qualifying that was a mess when they had to change it back.
Now they want windshields on the cars, for reason no really known of why, except for the odd freak accident.
 
Did that Sauber driver get a reprimand for not going to the left of the bollard at Turn 2 during the race?

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Hamilton didn't go left of the bollard at Turn 2 during a Qualifying lap he then abandoned = 2 points on his license and his 2nd of 3 reprimands.
Nasr didn't go to the left of the bollard at Turn 2 during the Race, in a fight for a position he gained 2 corners later = 5 second penalty.

Yeah, I'd be super peed off if I was Hamilton too!
 
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Kyvat only made one mistake - the second incident was all Vettel, you can't lift off in the corner like he did and not expect a smack. He should have gone off track before then to ensure his car was ok.
 
Even if you take just the first impact its still all over the place:

Causing a collision: 10 second penalty and 3 points
Causing a collision: drive through penalty and 2 points
Overtaking someone: 10 second penalty and 2 points
Going the wrong way round a meaningless bollard: 5 second penalty
Going the wrong way round a meaningless bollard: 2 points and a reprimand

Its all a complete joke.
 
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Goksly said:
Kyvat only made one mistake - the second incident was all Vettel, you can't lift off in the corner like he did and not expect a smack. He should have gone off track before then to ensure his car was ok.
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Erm what? He didn't completely lift off and frankly kyvat should have been paying attention (small dab of the brakes) given the fact he'd rear ended him moments before. Lol at vettel should have gone off the track to test his car...brilliant.

Anyway I digress, I agree with skeeter the penalties were all over the place, didn't appear to be consistent.
 
Vettel (and Hamilton) backed off because Perez was slowing with his puncture (knock-on from Kvyat pushing Vettel into Ricciardo who ultimately hit Perez). Nobody else creamed into the back of Perez or any of the other drivers avoiding him.

I think it was more likely Kyvat was on the radio about a new front wing and not paying the attention others were.
 
Great race highlights
Did enjoy this one

Now ready to see some even racing between Hamilton and rosberg. If Rosberg has improved and/or cracked Hamilton after that I will reconsider his deserving this wdc

At least one bad penalty on that sauber with Palmer

Magnusson did well

Loving the triple tyre choice as even on a simple strategy red bull made a mistake with the medium as option was there

As usual penalties were inconsistent lol


Basically watching the highlights is much more enjoyable than races. Just turn it on when ready, watch, turn off. Doesn't ruin good weather Sundays etc. Not bothered about not watching live anymore as I don't know anyone who talks about it Anyway

Glad to see my favourite driver (RG) has picked up his game in his car awareness. Like how he's almost always positive and never seems to bitch
 
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413x said:
Now ready to see some even racing between Hamilton and rosberg. If Rosberg has improved and/or cracked Hamilton after that I will reconsider his deserving this wdc
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That's if Mercedes let them race, if he wins this season it could possibly be the most undeserving WDC possible, even more worthless than Button's.

Only thing Rosberg's done well so far is two good starts, the rest any driver on the grid could have done in the same car with no technical issues.
 
Zero water pressure on lewis' car for final 16 laps!

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id...dresses-sochi-conspiracy-theories-letter-fans

I dont know how, or if, thats even possible without complete meltdown of engine, surely faulty sensor/readings? either that or mighty impressive ICE.
If water cooling system is not pressurised can it still circulate? i'm aware that f1 cars run highly pressurised systems, but can they still have circulation of water under no pressure? dosnt sound possible to me, you surely need some pressure to have a flow? and therefore transfer of water from block/ancils to radiators.
 
It's so easy in this case to scream conspiracy.

Nico putting in a fastest lap while the car is in some sort of "safe" mode, Lewis miraculously finishing with many laps left with apparently no water pressure.
 
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Zero water pressure on lewis' car for final 16 laps!

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id...dresses-sochi-conspiracy-theories-letter-fans

I dont know how, or if, thats even possible without complete meltdown of engine, surely faulty sensor/readings? either that or mighty impressive ICE.
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I'm sure it had water, but I guess pressure wasn't high enough to register a reading. It clearly states and even emphasises "water pressure" not addressing if any water was actually left.
 
Perhaps saying that Rosberg was suffering the with the same issue was a way and giving the impression he was also having technical issues to make it seem less one sided, but nobody told Rosberg. :-D
 
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I'm sure it had water, but I guess pressure wasn't high enough to register a reading. It clearly states and even emphasises "water pressure" not addressing if any water was actually left.
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I understand the wording, hence my comment faulty sensor/readings, as that to me is the only way in which it can make any sense to me, i would have thought coolant heated to the extremes of an F1 car would create a lot of pressure in the system? also water being pumped through a system will create pressure too? from my limited reasoning, a lack of pressure suggests either a big leak or failure of a water pump? therefore a lack of coolant reaching the hot parts.
I am no engineer, i'm just trying to make sense of it, If i'm way off the mark just tell me to shut up, but from my uneducated point of view i can see two possibilities, one faulty sensor/dodgy readings and the system was working normally. Or two, potentially damaged ICE, maybe not enough to produce catastrophic failure during the race but enough to render the block possibly damaged? as i cant understand how there would be sufficient cooling?:confused:

does anyone here have any insight into the cooling systems on these cars, wish to impart some wisdom on me?:o


PS - I'm not part of the Conspiracy theory crowd, just trying to understand how an F1 car with Zero water pressure can last 16 laps. when in past i'm sure lack of water pressure either spelled rapid retirement/stop on track/pit.
 
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There's no way the engine would survive more than a few corners without water if water is the only cooling method. Perhaps there's some air cooling or something to supplement the water radiators - not something I'm familiar with and I can't say I've heard of for a good few years now, but then none of us have a clue when it comes to cooling an F1 car, especially now with so many different aspects to the PU!

I suppose in an old road-going engine you could turn it up to full rich (or as rich as you could) which ought to bring the temperatures down a little, but still no-where near enough to actually run without cooling. I mean, the coolant in a small road car often hovers between 85c and 95c in my experience. Surely an F1 car, at near to full racing speed, wouldn't survive for more than seconds if it had little to no water.

PS I'm also not an engineer, so my points may be equally invalid, but then we know there's far more to these systems than we've even got an inkling about, and as demonstrated so publicly in testing in 2014 even the teams were struggling with the complexity of them.
 
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