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RV770 Pro first, XT later.

We can't really know that. GT200 is a chip that was possibly delayed. There was a high end chip supposed to come out in November (Possibly G90) and instead we got G92.

Now the question is if GT200 is that chip, or a modifed form of it, or is G100 which was supposed to be a new architecture or a highly advanced version of G80.

Anyway, i believe nVIDIA will maintain the lead in the high end but the performance in the main stream high end cards will be tighter than it was. The possible reason that G90 was never released could have been the release of the cheaper RV670. A new high end wouldnt really help nvidia if the competition is winning on the more crucial mainstream markets.
 
I like to hope that ATI can pull it off but it's highly unlikely since Nvidia had all this time to design their new architecture so chances are that it will perform much better that their current architecture. Yet again though neither us nor Nvidia know what performance does the new ATI chips have so we shall have to wait and see :P
Any rumours about the pricing of these upcoming cards btw?
 
I think ATi have done alright with the 3000 series. I mean while the 9600gt was non-exsistent and you couldn't afford a 8800gt, you got a 3870xt. Those 3850's aren't bad either.

*And then there was the 8800gt price drop and the introduction of the 9600gt
 
Lightnix said:
Let's just hope it's not like the 2900 XT launch where we thought we were gonna get a 2900 XTX to battle it out with the 8800 GTX...
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Hmmm... I seem to remember AMD distancing themselves from any rumour that their high-end hardware was going for the 8800GTX months before its actual launch. Such speculation was internet-generated and nothing to do with AMD/ATI.

Just as this product will probably be lauded by internet pundits as ATI's saviour/GTZ toppler/etc.

Make your calls when benchmarks come out - and after reading four or five different ones. Not before.
 
i want i want i want i want i want i want NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW!!! *runs round screaming and crying*

leave me alone, tantrums work on some poeple thought i would try it for the new graphic cards!
 
Lightnix said:
I thought it was supposed to be like this:

RV770 Pro GDDR3 (512MB) - 4850
RV770 Pro GDDR5 (512MB) - 4850
RV770 XT GDDR5 (1GB) - 4870

Not heard much about the X2 card other than it's supposed to be somehow 'better' than the 3870 X2 in design terms...
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that's what i read,
how come ATi won't be using GDDR4 anymore? it's still extremely fast ram.
 
bandwidth and power reasons. gddr5 apparently is capable of some pretty huge numbers even on a relatively small bus

GDDR5 (Graphics Double Data Rate, version 5) is a type of graphics card memory. It will be the successor to GDDR4. It is currently in its design state, and products should be available as early as the first half of 2008.[1]

Qimonda, a spin-off of Infineon, has demonstrated and sampled GDDR5 [2], and released a white paper about the technologies behind GDDR5 [3]. Samsung has announced plans for the transition to GDDR5 by the beginning of 2008 [4].

Hynix Semiconductor has introduced the industry's first 1 Gib GDDR5 memory. It supports a bandwidth of 20 GB/s on a 32-bit bus, which enables memory configurations of 1 GiB at 160 GB/s with only 8 circuits on a 256-bit bus.[5]

It has been rumoured that some ATI Radeon 4-series graphics cards may include GDDR5, although this is not confirmed. [6]
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from the wiki
 
Aye the limitations of 256bit and GDDR3 will be eradicated. Although, I've never seen the 256bit interface of ATI be affected like the Nvidia cards. What I mean is that I don't know if the X2 3870 is affected like the 9800GX2 at high resolutions and high AA/AF?. I've read a few times that the GX2 can be crippled at times due to this but I've not heard many of the horror stories concerning ATI since they went from 512bit to 256bit.

So can ATI cope with the 256bit just as well as they could the 512bit?. From everything I've seen it shows it's just as good. Maybe 1FPS faster in the odd title but nothing special. Maybe the power of this new card will need more bandwidth than before and that's why they want GDDR5?.

I just hope that the timings aren't terrible and we have high bandwidth RAM with less latency like when GDDR4 competed against GDDR3 at first.
 
We already knew that much, they havent said anything new.

RV770 is a refreshed RV670 with possibly more TMUs, more stream processors, better AA performance and extremely high bandwidth for the GDDR5 versions.

RV670 killer flaw was its abysmal texturing performance, pixel shading wise it was a solid chip, as was R600 before it.

R700 was going to be a multi chip, rumours are that its going to be a different implementation compared to the current R680. It is certainly believable if ATi is going to use smaller cores for the high end from now on.
 
Even worser if nothing new arrives in May/June....

But got a feeling since 2008 is a year of the dead and everyones broke and no new decent PC game flow... its proberly a good idea nothing arrives just yet !
 
HighlandeR said:
Even worser if nothing new arrives in May/June....

But got a feeling since 2008 is a year of the dead and everyones broke and no new decent PC game flow... its proberly a good idea nothing arrives just yet !
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There are some games coming towards the end of the year, so if these new cards are only slightly quicker than current cards then ATI have basically wasted all this time doing bugger all
 
Once again, it looks like the writer just glanced at the amount of shaders and made a judgement on that. :\ (I say this being 480 is 320x1.5)
 
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