Im meeting someone for coffee in the Trafford Centre later this morning so will see if I can find somewhere that has both in and have a play 
RX100 iii Still the Compact of choice?
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So, just popped into JL in the Trafford Centre and had a play with both. Both are lovely cameras and not a hugely massive size difference in the flesh, but the Lumix is definitely not pocket material (the flash is, thankfully, detachable):
So, first up the Sony, definitely small
But also slightly awkward for my sized hands
To get to the back buttons on the right hand side moved the camera away from my palm and therefore had the camera in my finger tips almost, which really affected by grip
The Lumix is a bit bigger
but felt a lot more sturdy in my hand and generally more comfortable maneuvering round the dials and buttons
There were a few other niggles with the Sony such as the EVF having to be pulled up and away from the body and not sitting "right" when I took the camera to my eye (although, admittedly, that could be my face rather than the camera's fault
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After having a play, even with the higher cost of the Lumix and larger size it just felt "better" in my hands so I think we may have a winner, so now its just a case of black or silver !
Thanks all again for your input cheers
So, first up the Sony, definitely small
But also slightly awkward for my sized hands
To get to the back buttons on the right hand side moved the camera away from my palm and therefore had the camera in my finger tips almost, which really affected by grip
The Lumix is a bit bigger
but felt a lot more sturdy in my hand and generally more comfortable maneuvering round the dials and buttons
There were a few other niggles with the Sony such as the EVF having to be pulled up and away from the body and not sitting "right" when I took the camera to my eye (although, admittedly, that could be my face rather than the camera's fault
)After having a play, even with the higher cost of the Lumix and larger size it just felt "better" in my hands so I think we may have a winner, so now its just a case of black or silver !
Thanks all again for your input
cheers
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Soldato
As you aren't in a rush to buy, I would wait to see what Sony have to say at a press briefing on Thursday, there is an expectation that they could announce the RX100mk4. Rumours are still going strong that it will be a micro four thirds sensor, I don't know how they are going to be able to keep the camera body the same compact size if this is the case.
Ah, thanks - no, no rush - Ill wait and see
Thanks Danny - I think your right with the silver - just wait and see what Sony have to say on Thursday (hopefully!)Picked up the LX100 a few weeks back (was £449 + £50 cash back on the amazon daily deals), great camera for the size. Is quite a bit thicker than my RX100 but photo quality is superb.
The only bad things about the LX100 is the detachable flash (would prefer it to pop out) and no USB charging, which I think is ridiculous. For the kind that kind of money would expect touch screen as well tbh!
The only bad things about the LX100 is the detachable flash (would prefer it to pop out) and no USB charging, which I think is ridiculous. For the kind that kind of money would expect touch screen as well tbh!
USB and touchscreen arent a biggy for me - the flash is the only minor gripe
£449 Plus £50 cashback or after ? Either is an awesome price !
£449 Plus £50 cashback or after ? Either is an awesome price !
I use my Olympus EPM-2 with kit lens as a pocket camera without issue, but I don't wear skinny tight hispter jeans.
The general use case is skiing or ski touring when I want light gear, hiking, casual strolls in a park photographing family, travelling super light. I have never once felt the EPM2 too big , and that is bigger than he LX100.
If I really want something unobtrusive then the RX100 would stlll be too bug, it isn't a shirt pocket camera either. This is when the smart phone comes in because you have it with you anyway.
The general use case is skiing or ski touring when I want light gear, hiking, casual strolls in a park photographing family, travelling super light. I have never once felt the EPM2 too big , and that is bigger than he LX100.
If I really want something unobtrusive then the RX100 would stlll be too bug, it isn't a shirt pocket camera either. This is when the smart phone comes in because you have it with you anyway.
Believe me I also don't wear skinny hipster jeans
BigRiver have it in for £490 and looks like the cashback and extended warranty would apply (ive emailed Panasonic to confirm) - if so i think ill pull the trigger
Only minor gripe is that it is the black version only, but no show stopper
BigRiver have it in for £490 and looks like the cashback and extended warranty would apply (ive emailed Panasonic to confirm) - if so i think ill pull the trigger
Only minor gripe is that it is the black version only, but no show stopper
Well it was delivered earlier so ill try and have a play later 
Hmmmm, ****** Amazon 
Opened the box and it has an EU plug on the charger, no biggie
Six instruction manuals in selected European languages, OK, still not a massive issue
Try to register Serial Number with Panasonic (the camera qualifies for £50 cash back and extended 5 year warranty) - guess what it appears to be a German registered camera - so can as you need a UK serial number
Spoken to Amazon and they are going to arrange a UK spec / registered camera to be delivered and swap out the German one, the wait continues .......
Opened the box and it has an EU plug on the charger, no biggie
Six instruction manuals in selected European languages, OK, still not a massive issue
Try to register Serial Number with Panasonic (the camera qualifies for £50 cash back and extended 5 year warranty) - guess what it appears to be a German registered camera - so can as you need a UK serial number
Spoken to Amazon and they are going to arrange a UK spec / registered camera to be delivered and swap out the German one, the wait continues .......
Soldato
That's an odd one. Was it sold and fulfilled by Amazon themselves?
"Sold by: Amazon EU S.a.r.L." so yes, sold and fulfilled by Amazon.
They have, so far, been really helpful - just no UK stock at the moment
They have, so far, been really helpful - just no UK stock at the moment
Soldato
Hmm, guess it's no different to OcUK selling EU stock and throwing a UK kettle lead in, except camera manufacturers warranty coverage is a lot more complicated.
Although I'm pretty sure Panasonic offer a pan-European warranty or somesuch.
Hope you get a UK model soon!
For what it's worth, I've found my local Panasonic Store to be excellent at price matching and sorting out stock. Might be an idea to give your local one a call if Amazon are gonna take a while.
Although I'm pretty sure Panasonic offer a pan-European warranty or somesuch.
Hope you get a UK model soon!
For what it's worth, I've found my local Panasonic Store to be excellent at price matching and sorting out stock. Might be an idea to give your local one a call if Amazon are gonna take a while.
If it was just the lead and / or the manuals i wouldn't be that fussed but potential warranty issues (with the German serial number) along with that stopping me claiming the £50 cashback and extended warranty is enough for me to get a swap-out.
Hopefully they are looking to get UK stock in early next week
Fingers crossed !
Hopefully they are looking to get UK stock in early next week
Fingers crossed !
Update from Amazon - UK stock expected 5th March and will arrange a swap out after the 5th
he he, May (i have man flu and my head feels like its full of cotton wool )
Yeah, they seem pretty good so far, can't wait to get my hands on it now
)Yeah, they seem pretty good so far, can't wait to get my hands on it now
Well by way of an update - the 5th came and went
They changed the date to the 8th, which came and went
They changed the date to the 15th, which came and went
Then, after suggesting they supply me with a lead and confirm the camera is eligible for the warranty and cashback and several chase up emails to them Amazon have agreed for me to buy a lead (from Amazon) and they will refund the cost of the lead - Done
They have also confirmed Panasonic will honor the warranty and cashback
This is slightly odd as Panasonic have said they won't..............
They acknowledge that the camera (and my purchase of the camera) complies will all their T&Cs except the 3 digit suffix to the model number
But I now have an email from Amazon confirming the camera is eligible.
I need to wait another week or so (28 days after purchase) to register on the Panasonic website and will be fun if it doesn't accept it and Amazon have advised it is eligible ...................
Aside from that, having a bit more of a play with the camera and really liking it and its portability
They changed the date to the 8th, which came and went
They changed the date to the 15th, which came and went
Then, after suggesting they supply me with a lead and confirm the camera is eligible for the warranty and cashback and several chase up emails to them Amazon have agreed for me to buy a lead (from Amazon) and they will refund the cost of the lead - Done
They have also confirmed Panasonic will honor the warranty and cashback
This is slightly odd as Panasonic have said they won't..............
They acknowledge that the camera (and my purchase of the camera) complies will all their T&Cs except the 3 digit suffix to the model number
But I now have an email from Amazon confirming the camera is eligible.
I need to wait another week or so (28 days after purchase) to register on the Panasonic website and will be fun if it doesn't accept it and Amazon have advised it is eligible ...................
Aside from that, having a bit more of a play with the camera and really liking it and its portability