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Ive got the Ryobi, can't fault it.
Ryobi vs Dewalt
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Ive got the Ryobi, can't fault it.
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Dewalt makita and hilti are the ones to look at.
Milwaukee are amazing but almost impossible to get serviced/repaired in the UK
I'm a very heavy user or battery tools and use makita however their batteries can be quite fragile. This has been address recently with the 'star' batteries and appropriate tools. The range is massive too.
However, if I was buying new from scratch I'd probably go down the DeWalt route as their new kits is amazing. They really went downhill a few years back but the new stuff is spot on. The range is not as big as some others but that will come
Bosch are pretty expensive for what you get, i've had no good experience with Hilti battery stuff (Their 110v kit is top notch however). Ryobi is just posh household stuff and doesnt hold up to continued use. Hitatchi stuff is pretty good too but the range is tiny.
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If you're going to spend £100+, stick to one of the trade brands; Dewalt, Makita, Hitachi, Bosch etc
I wouldn't want to pay £100+ for Ryobi personally.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/hitachi-dv18dgl-jc-18v-1-5ah-li-ion-cordless-combi-drill/8652f is a pretty good value looking set if you don't fancy the Makita or Dewalts already linked at around £100. Obviously the more you spend, the better performance you get.
I wouldn't want to pay £100+ for Ryobi personally.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/hitachi-dv18dgl-jc-18v-1-5ah-li-ion-cordless-combi-drill/8652f is a pretty good value looking set if you don't fancy the Makita or Dewalts already linked at around £100. Obviously the more you spend, the better performance you get.
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http://www.powertoolsuk.co.uk/dewal...ushless.html?gclid=CPeKpq-f7MUCFe7HtAodcVYAjw
This seems like a good deal and is what I would go for if I was in the market for a new drill. For the performance and features this offers I dont think it can be beat at this price. A lot better than either of the drills in post #4.
I think the 2 x 2ah kit is better than the 4ah as the batteries will be smaller and lighter and 2ah is more than enough with a brushless tool.
This seems like a good deal and is what I would go for if I was in the market for a new drill. For the performance and features this offers I dont think it can be beat at this price. A lot better than either of the drills in post #4.
I think the 2 x 2ah kit is better than the 4ah as the batteries will be smaller and lighter and 2ah is more than enough with a brushless tool.
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Picked up the two battery Makita drill from B&Q this weekend, seems like a good unit for the money (£98). Only downside being the batteries, which are unique to this drill and can't be used in any other Makita product, but something i can live with.
First impressions are very good, built quality is spot on, feels good in the hand. Will say my dads Dewalt DCD795 feels like a better drill, though its double the money so to be expected, no idea how the cheaper Dewalts rate, never used one.
First impressions are very good, built quality is spot on, feels good in the hand. Will say my dads Dewalt DCD795 feels like a better drill, though its double the money so to be expected, no idea how the cheaper Dewalts rate, never used one.
For most DIY (read putting up shelves etc) then virtually any drill will work, it then becomes a decreasing quality argument as the price drops.
The main reason I tend to use bosch is I started with a Bosch jigsaw, it's done well, then got a bosch PSB drill (li-ion 24V) it's been very heavily used over the years and still is going strong - it's my first device I pick up for screwing or drilling, so that really says it all. I have a little IXO hand driver but it's not as good as the PSB thanks to it's torque limiting and variable rate.
I added a Bosch SDS blue as my birthday present and immediately cored a the brick wall - the PSB can't do that but that's not what it's designed for. I will use the SDS for drilling as it's power makes the jobs far quicker to drill. Drilling the plasterboard for a shelf or two under the stairs - that was PSB.
I think, given my personal experience, my preference would be to stick with one of the known 'trade' brands - especially on the device that you'll probably use a lot (i.e. a combo screw/drill like this). If you want something specific for a short time for a job or two then buy something a little less expensive and then sell it on after you've finished.
The main reason I tend to use bosch is I started with a Bosch jigsaw, it's done well, then got a bosch PSB drill (li-ion 24V) it's been very heavily used over the years and still is going strong - it's my first device I pick up for screwing or drilling, so that really says it all. I have a little IXO hand driver but it's not as good as the PSB thanks to it's torque limiting and variable rate.
I added a Bosch SDS blue as my birthday present and immediately cored a the brick wall - the PSB can't do that but that's not what it's designed for. I will use the SDS for drilling as it's power makes the jobs far quicker to drill. Drilling the plasterboard for a shelf or two under the stairs - that was PSB.
I think, given my personal experience, my preference would be to stick with one of the known 'trade' brands - especially on the device that you'll probably use a lot (i.e. a combo screw/drill like this). If you want something specific for a short time for a job or two then buy something a little less expensive and then sell it on after you've finished.
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Milwaukee are amazing but almost impossible to get serviced/repaired in the UK
I'm a very heavy user or battery tools and use makita however their batteries can be quite fragile. This has been address recently with the 'star' batteries and appropriate tools. The range is massive too.
However, if I was buying new from scratch I'd probably go down the DeWalt route as their new kits is amazing. They really went downhill a few years back but the new stuff is spot on. The range is not as big as some others but that will come
Bosch are pretty expensive for what you get, i've had no good experience with Hilti battery stuff (Their 110v kit is top notch however). Ryobi is just posh household stuff and doesnt hold up to continued use. Hitatchi stuff is pretty good too but the range is tiny.
So that rules out Milwaukee then, tbh I'm getting more confused now good points for pretty much every brand.
Dewalt Makita are coming out ahead atm from what I've read online, I still have a soft spot for Ryobi (never let me down plus universal batteries), I'm Probably going to have to look at whats on offer around the time of purchase.
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If your going to be using it for extended periods don't bother with the brushless impact driver or combi drill. They get stupidly hot at the end. Enough to melt soft plastics and polystyrene. And the run time is not half by using brushless. You'll get about 20% extra from a brushless. I can do around 60 10x140 coach bolts with my brushed one and around 68 to 72 with the brushless but it gets that hot the metal casing can actually burn you. All my tool are used for heavy use and the only ones Ive found that hold out for more than a year or two are hilti and dewalt.
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For diy use Ryobi
semi trade look at milwaulkee I know plenty of sparkys who use there kit
Full blown trade use dewalt,bosch blue,hilti are the only ones I'd recommend.
You want to be looking for all metal gear boxes and digital triggers. Also a lot of dewalt extreme tools come with extended warranties.
semi trade look at milwaulkee I know plenty of sparkys who use there kit
Full blown trade use dewalt,bosch blue,hilti are the only ones I'd recommend.
You want to be looking for all metal gear boxes and digital triggers. Also a lot of dewalt extreme tools come with extended warranties.
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http://m.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dck2...bi-drill-impact-driver-xr/69807?filtered=true
I've been using this kit for 2 years now. It's been dropped of scaffolds, scuffed, scrapped and still it refuses to die
the casing looks very worse for wear but it still functions like it did from day 1.
Dcd985-m2 is the combi drill if you can find one sub £200 they are a great buy.
I've been using this kit for 2 years now. It's been dropped of scaffolds, scuffed, scrapped and still it refuses to die
the casing looks very worse for wear but it still functions like it did from day 1. Dcd985-m2 is the combi drill if you can find one sub £200 they are a great buy.
Brushless is a lot more than 20% extra runtime in my experience. All the different brands claim around 50% extra and there are tests on Youtube that confirm it to be the case. I'm guessing the two drivers you used were different speeds, or some other variable thats giving you those results.
They also don't get hot, that's one of the benefits of brushless over brushed, less heat...
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Its not 50% at all in a normal environment with professional use. I own them both. 10x140 coach bolts. The brushed around 60 the brushless around 68 to 72. That is not 50% and the brushless impact driver for a fact gets hotter at the head than the brushed version.. the brushless motors are reversed so the heat ends up travelling down the shaft into the head of the tool. It's the same with the combi drill under prolonged heavy use the heat starts to build up around the torque box. A lot more than the brushed version does. Why do you think dewalt re designed the casings on most tools to get more airflow through..
The above is all fact from everyday use. I use a lot of tools daily and get to see the pros and cons of each. Not like some youtube fan who tests them for a day.
Makita do two ranges, one for trade use and one for consumer use. The prices reflect the planned usage. The professional range is very very good.
At home I have switched to Hitachi and am very happy with the quality of the tools.
At home I have switched to Hitachi and am very happy with the quality of the tools.
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There's a bosch blue with 3ah battery advertised on Screwfix for £99 at the moment, if of interest. Only 1 battery though.
I have a few ryobi tools for general use even the Hoover. The One system is great.
mum partner was in the building trade for 50 odd years and loves Mikita.
My mate is a spark by trade and had a full time job fixing power tools. He will only use and swears by Mikita.
I just bought a cheap sds drill the other week and it burnt out already!!! Only a day or two heavy use!!
I just returned it today and upgraded to a Mikita sds drill. Also own a Mikita Reciprocating saw. It's a fantastic bit of gear and getting plenty of abuse.
mum partner was in the building trade for 50 odd years and loves Mikita.
My mate is a spark by trade and had a full time job fixing power tools. He will only use and swears by Mikita.
I just bought a cheap sds drill the other week and it burnt out already!!! Only a day or two heavy use!!
I just returned it today and upgraded to a Mikita sds drill. Also own a Mikita Reciprocating saw. It's a fantastic bit of gear and getting plenty of abuse.
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Mikita here also, used them when I was buying my own tools (Sparky) and the company I now work for uses only Mikita and we have 200+ tradesmen working for us. The new bushless stuff works great, I'm impressed with it.