Ryzen 1600 vs 1700 vs 2600 vs 2700 vs intel

2013 · 26 Apr 2018 at 07:29

Hi guys,
i'm really not sure which CPU to go for Im looking for some information,

Any price vs performance comparisons

I do all the basics but nothing to a high level

I do play games but im not a all out gamer,
Some stream
Convert files video, audio
editing videos and images
Watch movies
all the daily tasks.

Ill be moving over from a AMD FX

Phixsator · 26 Apr 2018 at 07:37

2013 said:
Hi guys,
i'm really not sure which CPU to go for Im looking for some information,

Any price vs performance comparisons

I do all the basics but nothing to a high level

I do play games but im not a all out gamer,
Some stream
Convert files video, audio
editing videos and images
Watch movies
all the daily tasks.

Ill be moving over from a AMD FX

pick whatever is cheapest considering your very casual in your requirements. You will be seeing a massive performance upgrade anyway no matter what you pick up and save a few bucks on the electricity bill.

orbitalwalsh · 26 Apr 2018 at 07:40

Ryzen 1600... Seems bang in the middle for everything . In terms of thread count being high but not the highest with the added costs. Not the newest gen to save costs but still holds well against the new 2600. Not as fast as Intel in games but not huge amounts you'll be taking cold showers every night

2013 · 26 Apr 2018 at 07:55

Phixsator said:
pick whatever is cheapest considering your very casual in your requirements. You will be seeing a massive performance upgrade anyway no matter what you pick up and save a few bucks on the electricity bill.

What other information would you need to get a better idea ?

orbitalwalsh said:
Ryzen 1600... Seems bang in the middle for everything . In terms of thread count being high but not the highest with the added costs. Not the newest gen to save costs but still holds well against the new 2600. Not as fast as Intel in games but not huge amounts you'll be taking cold showers every night

The between the 1600 and 2600 is about £20-£30 is it worth the saving.
Also I will be overclocking.

orbitalwalsh · 26 Apr 2018 at 08:10

It's more the cost of x470 board over B350

2013 · 26 Apr 2018 at 08:12

orbitalwalsh said:
It's more the cost of x470 board over B350

for the board I was thinking of going for the Aorus X470 Ultra Gaming to me it look to be the best board for the price.

orbitalwalsh · 26 Apr 2018 at 08:17

2013 said:
for the board I was thinking of going for the Aorus X470 Ultra Gaming to me it look to be the best board for the price.

To be honest was expecting their range to be picked more in the range of Asus but they've kept it down which will be a plus .

Recommend getting the 2600x - £5 off on sale at the moment... Yey .
Just so it can boost and do it's own overclocking to get the max out of your money for little effort .
Slap in 3200 ram and good to go. Recommend 8 Pack version as it easily over clocks and ryzen loves ram speed !

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 2600X 4.20GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £194.99
1 x Gigabyte X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming AMD X470 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £125.99
1 x Team Group Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/= £179.99
2 x Cryorig M9A Single Tower Heatsink for AMD= £20.99

Total: £553.45 (includes shipping: £10.50)

2013 · 26 Apr 2018 at 08:43

How much of difference do the 3 have 1600 2600 2600x ?

I've seen the 2600x a little cheaper so for the £30 it maybe worth it.

will the M9A be ok for cooling ? also you have added x2

Does Overclockers still charge delivery ?

orbitalwalsh · 26 Apr 2018 at 08:48

Haha, sorry . It's from switching from mobile to desktop it adds One to the last item .
The stock cool is good , but if you want the best out of it then worth the little extra without breaking the bank .

1600 on b350 boards can run max ram 3000/3200 on x370 3200/3400 . 2600/X will work straight off the bat with 3200hz and increase to 3600 hopefully more. Ryzen performance is effected by ram speed !

1600 normally over clocks to 3.8/9 with after market cooler and 2600 will do 3.9 across all cores on auto overclock setting and 4.1 cross 1-2 cores . 2600x .I believe can do 4.3 across 2 cores and 4ghz across all six. That's with auto overclock feature. Some guys on here running 4.2ghz across all cores on the X

If you can get 4.1ghz all cores with 3600hz on the ram... Should push past the 10% gain on gerantion jump advertised

2013 · 26 Apr 2018 at 09:01

orbitalwalsh said:
Haha, sorry . It's from switching from mobile to desktop it adds One to the last item .
The stock cool is good , but if you want the best out of it then worth the little extra without breaking the bank .

1600 on b350 boards can run max ram 3000/3200 on x370 3200/3400 . 2600/X will work straight off the bat with 3200hz and increase to 3600 hopefully more. Ryzen performance is effected by ram speed !

1600 normally over clocks to 3.8/9 with after market cooler and 2600 will do 3.9 across all cores on auto overclock setting and 4.1 cross 1-2 cores . 2600x .I believe can do 4.3 across 2 cores and 4ghz across all six. That's with auto overclock feature. Some guys on here running 4.2ghz across all cores on the X

If you can get 4.1ghz all cores with 3600hz on the ram... Should push past the 10% gain on gerantion jump advertised

Thanks I thought that would be the case.

What I meant was, what is the real performance difference outside the overclock speed between the 1--- 2---. with the prices dropping on the last gen its still worth considering.

I'm mean at this point im even considering picking up a used 1700, I will need to check how the warranty works but even without then if the CPU I should not have any issue and i could spend the saving on the RAM and GPU

orbitalwalsh · 26 Apr 2018 at 09:10

if you take clock speed away and kept the same, then it would be down to ram speed . ryzen+ would win due to taking faster ram , but scaling of ram is different from program to program .

it would be Zen2 that would have the IPC jump with clock speeds and ram speeds set the same to keep a level playing field

with second hand, warranty is solely down to the persons name it is on the receipt

2013 · 26 Apr 2018 at 09:18

orbitalwalsh said:
if you take clock speed away and kept the same, then it would be down to ram speed . ryzen+ would win due to taking faster ram , but scaling of ram is different from program to program .

it would be Zen2 that would have the IPC jump with clock speeds and ram speeds set the same to keep a level playing field

with second hand, warranty is solely down to the persons name it is on the receipt

Thanks,

I did manage to find this site, I dont know if the comparison is right.
It looks like 8% for the 2600 15% for the X 10% for the 1700 unless read it wrong.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3955vs3919

orbitalwalsh · 26 Apr 2018 at 09:25

would avoid sites like that , gamersnexus might have one . the above doesn't break down into how they tested. just pulls numbers

2013 · 26 Apr 2018 at 09:36

orbitalwalsh said:
would avoid sites like that , gamersnexus might have one . the above doesn't break down into how they tested. just pulls numbers

Thanks ill take a look.

orbitalwalsh · 26 Apr 2018 at 09:40

1700 would give you the better performance for streaming and editing/encoding videos along with photo editing . as for gaming both 1600/1700 tend to be the same as not to many games or older games not taking advantage of such high thread counts... but that is changing currently with newly released AAA titles

2013 · 26 Apr 2018 at 09:52

orbitalwalsh said:
1700 would give you the better performance for streaming and editing/encoding videos along with photo editing . as for gaming both 1600/1700 tend to be the same as not to many games or older games not taking advantage of such high thread counts... but that is changing currently with newly released AAA titles

So the 1700 would be a better option over the 2600 ?

orbitalwalsh · 26 Apr 2018 at 09:56

2013 said:
So the 1700 would be a better option over the 2600 ?

for your general use yes . if you were just gaming and normal PC use then 2600.

worth checking out the programs you use for editing and see how they fair with ryzen 1600 vs 1700

as with streaming , mroe cores and threads the better

HeX · 26 Apr 2018 at 09:57

I'd be tempted to snap this up one of the bargain 1700/1700X's in the MM at the moment, otherwise just grab a 2600X for the best balance of gaming/productivity/price.

2013 · 26 Apr 2018 at 10:12

orbitalwalsh said:
for your general use yes . if you were just gaming and normal PC use then 2600.

worth checking out the programs you use for editing and see how they fair with ryzen 1600 vs 1700

as with streaming , mroe cores and threads the better

Gaming I assuming the GPU be would be the bigger impact.

editing i normally use coral
Converting i use wondershare and handbreak

I dont use them all the time once a week maybe.

wam7 · 26 Apr 2018 at 10:14

HeX said:
I'd be tempted to snap this up one of the bargain 1700/1700X's in the MM at the moment, otherwise just grab a 2600X for the best balance of gaming/productivity/price.

Agreed. Some good savings to be had that could be put elsewhere. There should be a few around over the next few weeks and the OP should have access to the MM.