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Ryzen 2nd Gen Hardware Compatibility

Dirk Diggler

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I know there's a Ryzen 2 thread on the go, but feel this could do with a dedicated thread as there seems to be a bit of confusion regarding memory compatibility and motherboard requirements.

Basing the system around a 2700x, and I appreciate that the answer may not yet be clear until people get their hands on the hardware.
  • What is the best memory set to match with a 2700x?
  • What is the best Motherboard in each form factor; ITX, mATX & ATX?
The memory question is based on the fact that Ryzen can be very picky when it comes to speed and timings, and with RAM prices where they are at right now it's going to be a costly mistake to make.

The motherboard question is based on the fact that X370 & X470 exist so should existing X370 users be updating the BIOS or buying a new board? Is it feasible to buy a X370 board if it's got the features you want over X470 choices? I'm also interested in knowing if a full ATX board will offer an advantage over smaller form factors when it comes to power delivery etc.. Personally, I'll be using a full custom water loop so I want to get the most from the CPU... does that have to be X470?

As for form factor choice, it seems to be ATX for the X370 or X470 boards because there's nothing available in micro-ATX, and ITX seems to be lacking in features if the end user wants to push an overclock? Why is there no micro-ATX availability for these boards?
 
I have been trying to find answers to these questions too. As far as Ram compatibility goes, there have been some odd results around (Gamers Nexus on YT for example) and we wont know until the reviews are out (at least we know some have been reviewed thanks to the odd 'unboxing embargo'). However, mobo manufacturers do have RAM compatibility lists available for some X470 motherboards now, so those would be good places to start.

For motherboard features, I would hazard a guess that the existing X370 designs for each manufacturer are likely to apply for the equivalent X470 tiers as well, so e.g. Asus Pros will have decent VRM. A quick comparison of prices for each manufacturers 370 and 470 suggests this to me.

Eagerly awaiting solid info here!
 
String said:
I know there's a Ryzen 2 thread on the go, but feel this could do with a dedicated thread as there seems to be a bit of confusion regarding memory compatibility and motherboard requirements.

Basing the system around a 2700x, and I appreciate that the answer may not yet be clear until people get their hands on the hardware.
  • What is the best memory set to match with a 2700x?
  • What is the best Motherboard in each form factor; ITX, mATX & ATX?
The memory question is based on the fact that Ryzen can be very picky when it comes to speed and timings, and with RAM prices where they are at right now it's going to be a costly mistake to make.

The motherboard question is based on the fact that X370 & X470 exist so should existing X370 users be updating the BIOS or buying a new board? Is it feasible to buy a X370 board if it's got the features you want over X470 choices? I'm also interested in knowing if a full ATX board will offer an advantage over smaller form factors when it comes to power delivery etc.. Personally, I'll be using a full custom water loop so I want to get the most from the CPU... does that have to be X470?

As for form factor choice, it seems to be ATX for the X370 or X470 boards because there's nothing available in micro-ATX, and ITX seems to be lacking in features if the end user wants to push an overclock? Why is there no micro-ATX availability for these boards?
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If you buy new get X470, is alleged supports 4500mhz ram and tech is more mature.

X370 will be supported also, however many motherboard manufacturers were pretty cheap on their design and gear (aka Asus even on their flagship product and they admitted it also), hence many issues with Vdroop, ram etc.
Also I could go step further, saying that look at Asrock offerings for two reasons. They had the best quality motherboards for X370, and all the others (Asus, MSI, Gigabyte) joined Nvidia GPP.
So I personally boycotting them.

As for ram many complained because they were trying to OC. I had two modules of Ripjaws 3600Mhz C15, and worked with the 1800Xand CH4. No issue what so ever with 3600Mhz ram, and performance was pretty damn miles better compared of what you see in benchmarks and review sites. (not bad for £136 on 16GB ram back in 2016)
 
Having thought about it, I don't want to compromise by being forced into ATX so if the ITX boards are restricting the overclocking ability then I'm going to give Ryzen a miss.

Also, this is the RAM I already own and I'm wondering if someone more knowledgeable than me could advise on what would work best with 2700x (I'm hoping the Team Group 8 Pack kit?):

  • Team Group Dark Pro "8 Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black
  • Corsair CMK32GX4M4A2400C14 Vengeance LPX 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4 2400 MHz C14
 
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I would like to resurrect this thread as I'm now swithering on a 2700x system with a view to dropping in a Ryzen 3000 series upgrade next year. I would be going ITX so the system would be as listed below. Is this a good combo? I already own the RAM so not keen to change it.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £715.43 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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String said:
I would like to resurrect this thread as I'm now swithering on a 2700x system with a view to dropping in a Ryzen 3000 series upgrade next year. I would be going ITX so the system would be as listed below. Is this a good combo? I already own the RAM so not keen to change it.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £715.43 (includes shipping: £10.50)
​
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I have the B450 version of that board and apparently it is more or less the same,outside some more lighting.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Some pictures of the motherboard in this thread:

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/cats-mini-itx-ryzen-5-review.18833557/
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You've put a lot of time into that, thanks for sharing. As there's only £20 between the boards I'd be happy to go with the X470.

I'm very tempted with this; I could buy the 2700x and motherboard for less than a 9900k... with the option to drop in a 3000 series next year. I also fancy a play with Ryzen.

Which PSU would I need for 2700x & 1080ti? Would 750w be OK? BTW this would be under water so hoping for maximum push on the CPU. :)
 
String said:
You've put a lot of time into that, thanks for sharing. As there's only £20 between the boards I'd be happy to go with the X470.

I'm very tempted with this; I could buy the 2700x and motherboard for less than a 9900k... with the option to drop in a 3000 series next year. I also fancy a play with Ryzen.

Which PSU would I need for 2700x & 1080ti? Would 750w be OK? BTW this would be under water so hoping for maximum push on the CPU. :)
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Why not use your current 850W one? But tes 750W should be fine.
 
String said:
You've put a lot of time into that, thanks for sharing. As there's only £20 between the boards I'd be happy to go with the X470.

I'm very tempted with this; I could buy the 2700x and motherboard for less than a 9900k... with the option to drop in a 3000 series next year. I also fancy a play with Ryzen.

Which PSU would I need for 2700x & 1080ti? Would 750w be OK? BTW this would be under water so hoping for maximum push on the CPU. :)
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I am using a Corsair SF450. So the SF600 Platinum or Silverstone SFX-L PSU for the GTX1080TI.
 
We sold over 2000 kits of that memory!!! Its the highest Bin B Die. On Intel it can clock to 4000Mhz+ without issue. Its also by far the most compatible on AMD, Stric its working perfectly with...
 
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