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Ryzen 3000 Air cooler options, convex and undersized plates of popular choices not suited to die....

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Feel free to add to this list of popular air coolers getting recommnded on the basis of them being good value for other cpu's but actually not that suited to Ryzen 3000 due to the non-central die layout.

Popular recommendations:

Cryorig H7 - from what i'm reading from reddit users this is a poor choice due to its convex plate, people reporting very high temps, the convex plate is designed to draw heat away from the centre but this is less than optimal for these cpu's.

Thermalright Macho - Same again with this

Arctic Freezer 34 esports - have you seen how tiny the base plate is on this, it doesn't cover the cpu at all which is no issue on central die CPU's but with the corner die's this has surely got to be a poor choice, its only half covering that corner die.

Just a head's up for people looking at these since these are best value in thier range but might not be ideal???

Fell free to add to this if I am wrong about this, i'm just going off of what I have read and has certainly put me off the above choices. Even the Mugen 5 is suppose to be convex but it possibly comes down to what degree they are convex
 
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thats a pic of the freezer 34 on Ryzen, surely that is no good? same plate as the esports
 
Hotwired said:
Cos traditionally the cpu is a little blob of silicon exactly in the centre and every cooler covers the centre just fine. There's no need to have the cooler base covering loads of the IHS if there's nothing under it.

Then AMD decided to put chips all over the place and create drama.

How much it really actually factually matters is all in peoples heads. This is all about differences in temp which will change nothing. But that doesn't stop people or their OCD.

However if making a new model of cpu cooler today (which that isn't) it would be proper design to make the base larger to account for AMDs eccentric chip placement under the IHS.
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You make valid points but its not OCD with regards to the convex plates which are designed for centre dies, they are proving to be worse performance from reports on forums ive read (some are). If they are designed to remove heat from the centre then they are no good for Ryzen or atleast far from the best choice and better to look for alternative designs if you haven't bought yet, its good to know this information I think, its early days and everyone is just experimenting. I'm sure if I already had one of them from a previous build I would put up with it but a lot of folk are buying new, may as well look for the best you can.

You are right though, there is probably a degree to how much worse they are, I would like to find out, I bet some are worse than others, The H7 seems particularly bad though from what i've read.

I wouldn't want that sliver of a plate on the Arctic Freezer 34 though either, nor half the folks here I reckon, I don't know exactly I cant find the die picture I had earlier but it doesn't look like it completely covers the corner die, can't be optimal surely?
 
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MaXxBoulton said:
With the budget there very good coolers
Just noticed one is bgrade, don't get that one it may not have the am4 mount depending on its age

If your spending more buy an AIO coolers. The cooler plate will cover the full IHS
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Ah the second one the dual fan model looks decent for the money, but not AM4

Edit: sweet just seen they also sell the mounting kit for 2.99
 
String said:
This was my original cooler when I got my 3700x and I agree that it's not ideal.



This is what I have installed now, temperature under full load is 60C. :)

Also, it's huge - practically covering my ITX board. :eek:
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My reckoning is that there has gotta be a point when they are too convex for Ryzen, H7 must be. Good to know some of the others I mentioned are performing well though
 
R3X said:
Faulty batches of AMD 3000 chips some not had the heatspreader installed correctly so some are getting very hot temps.
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Do you know if this was just the first batches?

I've been putting off buying as I want a later batch as possible. Plus waiting on these motehrboards to drop 10-20quid
 
R3X said:
oh I just quoting a message someone else mentioned on that link I posted.

I have the same exact concern to be fair, we do know new tech has issues in general and it takes a while to get things ironed out properly and it does not
help AMD had that reputation with hot cpu's in general, but you can see from both threads (this one and the one I linked) if you get a decent cooler and a good chip you should be ok with some luck !
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I read somewhere that in both gen 1 and 2 the later batches performed cooler and boosted better. Graphs and all. Can't remember where it was.
 
R3X said:
No doubt quality control improves down the road, but as the ole saying goes there will always be something faster and cheaper down the road or around here 5 minutes after ! I was going to send you a message but your pm has never been set up.
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Ah thought PM was disabled on here, on now, I'm basically buying on the first sale just hope the sale stock isn't ancient batches.
 
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