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Ryzen 3600 Noise

venomx

venomx

venomx

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Installed my Ryzen 5 3600 yesterday and getting a really quiet whirring noise most the time.
Temps are 38c idle and 60c gaming
Any ideas ? No cables are touching the case and i definitely tightened all the screws on the heatsink

Changing the powerplan in W10 to energy saver reduces the sound
Could even be the fan at the back of the case, but it all started after installing the 3600
 
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I jumped from an FX8320 but was able to re-use the Corsair H100 cooler I got back then so still have the stock cooler as paperweight, sorry I cant tell you if that is the noise from my 3600. :(
 
The reputable computer site is describing what happens when a fan pushes air through a heatsink. That noise ranges from barely audible to jet engine. You say no cables are touching the case, but what about touching the fan? Take the side of the case off and see what’s making the noise.
 
Avalon said:
The reputable computer site is describing what happens when a fan pushes air through a heatsink. That noise ranges from barely audible to jet engine. You say no cables are touching the case, but what about touching the fan? Take the side of the case off and see what’s making the noise.
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Got a see thru case and nothings touching either fan
 
Don't want to be disconnecting anything as the CPU Fan cable is really delicate.

If changing the power plan to energy saver in W10 reduces the sound what does this indicate ?

Here is my work around. When not gaming i'll keep it on power saver. then when i am gaming switch to high performance. That seems to be the best solution
 
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venomx said:
Don't want to be disconnecting anything as the CPU Fan cable is really delicate.

If changing the power plan to energy saver in W10 reduces the sound what does this indicate ?

Here is my work around. When not gaming i'll keep it on power saver. then when i am gaming switch to high performance. That seems to be the best solution
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How's your case airflow? I assume also you use the latest chipset drivers from AMD also yes?
 
venomx said:
Don't want to be disconnecting anything as the CPU Fan cable is really delicate.

If changing the power plan to energy saver in W10 reduces the sound what does this indicate ?

Here is my work around. When not gaming i'll keep it on power saver. then when i am gaming switch to high performance. That seems to be the best solution
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Surely you can see that doing as you suggest and calling it ‘the best solution’ is pretty dumb, we’re not talking Iraqi Minister for Information denying that the US army had overrun the countries defences while you can see US tanks rolling past in the background, but in relative terms, it’s not good.

Using a reduced power profile reduces the chips performance and the heat it generates, less power generally means less heat, less heat generally means PWM reduces the fan speed. Reduced fan speed generally means less noise. It could be the fan itself, either blades or bearing, something touching it, the resonance/m causing a vibration, a lead or cable touching it, if it’s a buzz/squeal it could be capacitors, they can buzz or squeal depending on how they are being abused, but it tends to be more noticeable under full load.

Also in 30+ years of building computers i’ve yet to see a desktop CPU cooler where the cable was ‘really delicate’, the possible exception being OEM SFF builds or laptops. I’ve also yet to pull the cable when stopping a fan - they come with plastic connectors for a reason. Either way, ignoring the problem is not the ‘best solution’.
 
Avalon said:
Surely you can see that doing as you suggest and calling it ‘the best solution’ is pretty dumb, we’re not talking Iraqi Minister for Information denying that the US army had overrun the countries defences while you can see US tanks rolling past in the background, but in relative terms, it’s not good.

Using a reduced power profile reduces the chips performance and the heat it generates, less power generally means less heat, less heat generally means PWM reduces the fan speed. Reduced fan speed generally means less noise. It could be the fan itself, either blades or bearing, something touching it, the resonance/m causing a vibration, a lead or cable touching it, if it’s a buzz/squeal it could be capacitors, they can buzz or squeal depending on how they are being abused, but it tends to be more noticeable under full load.

Also in 30+ years of building computers i’ve yet to see a desktop CPU cooler where the cable was ‘really delicate’, the possible exception being OEM SFF builds or laptops. I’ve also yet to pull the cable when stopping a fan - they come with plastic connectors for a reason. Either way, ignoring the problem is not the ‘best solution’.
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I meant the socket on the mobo which says " CPU FAN " has a few little metal chips which look like they could bend easily.
The noise disappears when on power saving so for me it fixes it.

Panos said:
How's your case airflow? I assume also you use the latest chipset drivers from AMD also yes?
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Yes i haven't changed anything reg the case airflow, and yes I have ryzen master with the latest software and chips
 
Panos said:
Asked about your case airflow how is designed.
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There's a big glowing fan at the back of the case if thats what you mean ?

there are some loose/spare cabling tied up at the bottom of the case ( in a compartment below the DVD drive ) but i've bent them away from the case now as best I could.
 
venomx said:
Don't want to be disconnecting anything as the CPU Fan cable is really delicate.

If changing the power plan to energy saver in W10 reduces the sound what does this indicate ?

Here is my work around. When not gaming i'll keep it on power saver. then when i am gaming switch to high performance. That seems to be the best solution
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It could be a harmonics problem between the fans. The stock AMD cooler is pretty decent.
 
Trying a different cooler will determine if it's the cooler itself or something else. Easier said than done though as it's a removal of the cooler and the hassle that goes with it.
 
venomx said:
I meant the socket on the mobo which says " CPU FAN " has a few little metal chips which look like they could bend easily.
The noise disappears when on power saving so for me it fixes it
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Disconnecting and connecting the fan plug once will not damage the socket.

But it will help to localize the source of noise.
Because the other potential source of noise are VRM or power supply capacitors, which are trickier to determine. You want to remove the most obvious reason first.

You are safe to unplug the fan with pc shut off and booting it. Even if high cpu load is applied, passive cooling by heatsink with fan off will not allow temps to climb to damaging levels. CPU will throttle to protect itself.

If it turns out to be the cpu fan, there are other options in addition to power plan route. Changing fan speed curve through bios or ryzen master may achieve the same effect without slowing down the CPU.
 
The only thing I can think of is the spare cables in the compartment underneath the DVD drive. I have tried my best to push them down but the compartment is only narrow so it's difficult

I don't feel comfortable unplugging the cpu fan so ill just leave it as it is for now
 
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Re applying thermal paste wont make any difference will it ? I did smudge a tiny bit of the paste on my finger by accident when installing the heat sink
 
Bounce said:
Latest software wont do anything to the noise.
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Latest chipset fixed boost & idling windows power profiles, which from his comment says that using the Windows low power profile.

venomx said:
There's a big glowing fan at the back of the case if thats what you mean ?

there are some loose/spare cabling tied up at the bottom of the case ( in a compartment below the DVD drive ) but i've bent them away from the case now as best I could.
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That means you do not have positive airflow into the case. You need fans blowing fresh air in the case and more than one of them.
That would keep temps low also.
 
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