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Ryzen 5800x or Intel i9 10850K

Sky01454

Sky01454

Sky01454

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Hi guys,

I am trying to buy a new PC as my i7 5930K is starting to show its age. I am torn between the Ryzen 5800X and the Intel i9 10850K. They are similar in price. I was thinking of the Ryzen 5900X but it is now way too expensive compared to the 5800X or the i9. Some inputs from owners of the mentioned cpu would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
 
If you type Ryzen 5800x v i9 10850k in Google you will find comparison sites, I have been deciding between Ryzen and i9 10850k recently and the intel chips seem to use up to twice as much power
 
phil-k said:
If you type Ryzen 5800x v i9 10850k in Google you will find comparison sites, I have been deciding between Ryzen and i9 10850k recently and the intel chips seem to use up to twice as much power
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Why does power usage matter, if you are that poor maybe don't spend so much on your computer?

To the op best to write down you usage cases and take a look at YouTube for comparison videos then work out the costs and decide.

I have a 3800x and the only thing stopping me upgrading to 5900 is the fact I'm cheap and only watch YouTube / browse Internet so have no reason but I will upgrade eventually
 
When upgraded to my first nvme drive (3000 MB/s ) thought : nah, can't really see the difference between "normal" SSD , but when moved to those new pci-e 4.0 (7000 MB/s) drives , suddenly you really feel it ( from loading times in games to "snappiness" of the whole system ), so in our age buying anything without pci-e 4 seems " a bit " backwards.
 
edscdk said:
Why does power usage matter, if you are that poor maybe don't spend so much on your computer?

To the op best to write down you usage cases and take a look at YouTube for comparison videos then work out the costs and decide.

I have a 3800x and the only thing stopping me upgrading to 5900 is the fact I'm cheap and only watch YouTube / browse Internet so have no reason but I will upgrade eventually
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This is the same argument people make against fast cars having a decent MPG. "If you can afford this car why do you care about MPG.."
And its as invalid there as it is here. Just because somebody can afford to buy a product which is expensive does not mean they are happy for said product to use more resources than is necessary.

For computing terms, its also relevant as More power used will equal more heat generated. So its always going to be better option to take the device that consumes LESS power for the same workload.
It means you have less heat to deal with. Less noisy from fans for example.
 
KungFuSpaghetti said:
Both similar priced, so use case shouldn't really matter, as basically the 5800x is faster than anything Intel have in pretty much every single scenario.
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Use case is important as maybe OP doesn't need either the 10850k or 5800X and a 5600X or 11400 would perform the same job for cheaper etc, on the other side of the coin it maybe worth waiting for 5900X prices which have already been dropping to drop further.
 
Joxeon said:
Use case is important as maybe OP doesn't need either the 10850k or 5800X and a 5600X or 11400 would perform the same job for cheaper etc, on the other side of the coin it maybe worth waiting for 5900X prices which have already been dropping to drop further.
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I think it's a safe assumption that for most PC hardware enthusiasts, need rarely comes into it beyond basic budgeting. If you want a 5800x/10850k and can afford it, then just get it. Cant go wrong with either, or even a 5600x/11400 for that matter, but the 5800x is unequivocally the fastest out of the CPU's the OP is looking at.

If it's only for gaming, the 11400 is easily the best value on the face of it... assuming you never want to upgrade and are happy to fork out for an entirely new platform again. To me the best value is actually the 5600x, even if the CPU costs more, you can pair it with a cheap B450 board and even drop a 16 core 5950x if you so wish, but you cant drop a 10900k/11900k into an equivalently priced B560 Intel board. End of the line on that platform as far as upgrades go.
 
KungFuSpaghetti said:
I think it's a safe assumption that for most PC hardware enthusiasts, need rarely comes into it beyond basic budgeting. If you want a 5800x/10850k and can afford it, then just get it. Cant go wrong with either, or even a 5600x/11400 for that matter, but the 5800x is unequivocally the fastest out of the CPU's the OP is looking at.

If it's only for gaming, the 11400 is easily the best value on the face of it... assuming you never want to upgrade and are happy to fork out for an entirely new platform again. To me the best value is actually the 5600x, even if the CPU costs more, you can pair it with a cheap B450 board and even drop a 16 core 5950x if you so wish, but you cant drop a 10900k/11900k into an equivalently priced B560 Intel board. End of the line on that platform as far as upgrades go.
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If OP wasn't bothered about cost then he would just be buying the 5900X.
 
As previous posters have said, it depends on what you intend to do with the machine. I've got both of these chips and they are both very capable and powerful processors.

I use the 10850k in an ITX build with a small case. This is for development work under Linux so the onboard graphics are sufficient. I find I can use all the threads I can get (kubernetes / database / dev environments / tools etc). Got a good price on the processor at the time - and prices still seem to be falling

The 5800x lives in a bigger box with space for the graphics card, runs windows and gets used for gaming and usual windows / app type stuff. Have the option to go to 5900x/5950x if anything I play/use will take advantage of it in future. Will probably go next gen though instead of upgrading.

So choose the tool for the job and have fun.
 
edscdk said:
Why does power usage matter, if you are that poor maybe don't spend so much on your computer?
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Desire not to burn the planet for no purpose?
Desire to keep the house cool in summer?
Desire to build a quieter system?
Desire to not use a chip that's overclocked by the manufacturer to within an inch of it's life?

There's lots of possible reasons, and no reason at all to be nasty about it.
 
KungFuSpaghetti said:
Both similar priced, so use case shouldn't really matter, as basically the 5800x is faster than anything Intel have in pretty much every single scenario.
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Not quite, the 10850K has 10 core vs 8 on the 5800X but the IPC on the 5800X makes up for the 2 core deficit, i wouldn't say its faster in everything, there is a few % between them either way when its high core loads, single threaded the 5800X is certainly faster, a good solid chunk faster, gaming is more a mixed bag but overall the 5800X comes out on top.

And yes the 10850K uses literally twice as much power.
 
ah my email alert for some reason was not going off! I am mainly going to use it for gaming. I currently have the i7 5930K which is serving me well but worried that pairing it with a 6900XT will hold back the gpu. It is currently running at 4.5Ghz under water. Going from 6C 12T to another 6C 12T does not feel like an upgrade so that was why I was looking at the two cpu. 5900X is amazing but overpriced.
 
Sky01454 said:
ah my email alert for some reason was not going off! I am mainly going to use it for gaming. I currently have the i7 5930K which is serving me well but worried that pairing it with a 6900XT will hold back the gpu. It is currently running at 4.5Ghz under water. Going from 6C 12T to another 6C 12T does not feel like an upgrade so that was why I was looking at the two cpu. 5900X is amazing but overpriced.
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I know the feeling...

Ryzen 1600 > Ryzen 3600 >...... No, didn't want another 6 core even if the 5600X would have been more than my needs requirements, 5800X it was then... No regrets, its a monster CPU.
 
Sky01454 said:
ah my email alert for some reason was not going off! I am mainly going to use it for gaming. I currently have the i7 5930K which is serving me well but worried that pairing it with a 6900XT will hold back the gpu. It is currently running at 4.5Ghz under water. Going from 6C 12T to another 6C 12T does not feel like an upgrade so that was why I was looking at the two cpu. 5900X is amazing but overpriced.
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If going Intel, then personally I'd wait a generation or two, since a 5930K has pretty much the same cores and 4.5 isn't far off the 10850s all-core turbo.

The 5800X is at least a core upgrade, but there's more to come.
 
Sky01454 said:
Hi guys,

I am trying to buy a new PC as my i7 5930K is starting to show its age. I am torn between the Ryzen 5800X and the Intel i9 10850K. They are similar in price. I was thinking of the Ryzen 5900X but it is now way too expensive compared to the 5800X or the i9. Some inputs from owners of the mentioned cpu would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
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10850k owner here ... its a nippy cpu @5.2ghz, but just advised a mate to go 5800x! Better single thread speed etc etc.
 
If you can make your 10850k run at 5.1 or 5.2 consistently you will not be disappointed. It is the best Intel gave to offer at any civil pricing. It'll do a great job.
Factor in mobo cost pcie4 support and whole package power draw, then the 5800x will do as good or a better job most of the time.
And you can slot in a 5900x or 5950x or potentially an xt refresh later down the line for the lols.
 
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