Ryzen 7 1700 Overclock - Bad Chip? Lost The Lottery?

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Ryzen 7 1700
MSI Carbon Gaming Pro x370
Corsair DDR4 3200Mhz
Hyper Evo 212 Cooler

Trying to overclock my Ryzen 1700 & RAM but struggling to get anything stable with low temps

The best I've done so far is 3.7Ghz at 1.28v (VOC +1.000), spikes to 1.30v on stress test, Idle temps around 35c - max temps 71C ish.

If i try push 3.8ghz, I have to increase voltage to 1.37v (VOC +1.000), which spikes to 1.4v on stress test, max temps hitting around 89c at times... too high

3.9+ is out of the question

RAM will not go past 3066mhz either on 1.38v, or if I change Command Line to 2T I can get it running at 1.35v


Have I got a poor Ryzen chip here? was hoping to push 3.9ghz, or even 3.8 ghz, on lower volts with max temps around 70c max
 
Plec said:
Memory is about standard - it will probably get addressed with future BIOS updates (sometimes they hit 3200MHz - luck). You'll be better served with tighter timings and the slightly lower Frequency for now.

As for the clock - you may have hit a brick wall at 3.8Ghz - and if you have you're not going to miss 100Mhz.

But, equally, there may be some BIOS tweaks that will help you hit 3.8 more easily or even/maybe 3.9. As you have an x370 you have a few extra BIOS features to play with compared to the B350 - i would do a dedicated thread on the Overclocking and cooling forum for specific advice re: your MB.

Or read through the Ryzen oweners thread - loads of great user experience within it and swapping of BIOS clocking tips. Or add your woes to the thread - someone will have 'been there-done that' already and may be able to help...
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Thanks for the reply,

I'll leave the RAM as it is now then & hope future BIOS update can solve this!

I have looked through the various threads & tried some tips but it seems I've hit a brick wall with it, mainly the higher voltage needed after 3.7ghz, and the higher temperatures that are above what I'd want when under load,

Thinking about getting a watercooler which will help with the temperatures? might make the 3.8ghz overclock achievable with temps under 70c
 
Plec said:
A better cooler may help your clock - not guaranteed - but would certainly reduce your temps when running synthetic tests at higher voltages.

An AIO isn't necessary - quality air would do the job just as well and is less prone to issues and quieter. I'm not saying don't buy an AIO - just pointing out that a Noctua/be quiet/Phantek would still keep things chilly for less money, maintenance free and for less money.
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Hmm I see thanks,

are they a big improvement on my Hyper 212 Evo?
 
Plec said:
When you start reaching high voltages yes - the larger coolers/AIOs start to come into their own. Their ability to dissipate heat quickly and efficiently at higher temps is their forte - compared to the mid-range coolers.

The differences between them aren't so great at lower voltages - in fact the stock Wraith does a perfectly good job at lower clock/voltages.

*But the Hyper Evo is a great performer/value mid-range cooler...
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Okay thanks! I'll have a look at these coolers & mgiht get one
 
streaming & playing PLAYERUNKNOWN BATTLEGROUNDS just now its hitting 74c temp when CPU only at 50% capacity, seems very odd, its not been this hot before, especially at only 1.28v

Might try reseating the cooler
 
Plec said:
Yep, temps don't marry up to voltage/usage/hardware.

Re- seat seems sensible.
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Done a complete reseat and reapplied thermal paste, still idles around 36c but any test or game its pushing the high 60s still, don't understand why! there's only a max of 1.3v going into it under max stress

and gaming when its hardly using much CPU its still pushing mad temps
 
Plec said:
Odd when you consider this - Clicky. Look at the 4GHz temps.

I know they're done using a Ryzen 1600 but still fairly representative.

There's a known heat discrepancy/sensor/offset on some CPUs- or was - when it's clocked. I read about it ...

I'll have a quick look - may not be relevant to you.
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Very odd, such low temps with the stock cooler!

I just reseated it again, and on bios, reset the overclocks to default,

I set the CPU to 3.9ghz with 1.37v and 1.2v SOC, so under load it rises to 1.4 volts, I just did a small FFT and large FFT test in prime and it seems to not go over 76c now under max load.. better?

THats with the RAM clocked back down to 2133mhz too, might try raising that slowly now..
 
Plec said:
1.37V/1.4V @ 76 degrees running small FFTs i would be pleased - that should translate to ~60+ degrees in real world usage with an evo (at a guess).


I would take it to 2933MHz max for now (using the xmp at 29.33 should suffice) - as that should be attainable and leave it at that. Then ensure that your clock is stable and with steady temps...

I would then address your memory with the next AGESA/BIOS release to give yourself time tweaking the clock if required at memory settings you know won't/shouldn't be a factor...
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I've reduced the RAM to 2933 and it seems to be running stable with a 3.9ghz OC, max temps still 75c with small FFTs,

Will leave it for now until a new BIOS update it out, problem is though when I game and the GPU is in full use it creates more heat which raises the temps?

I'll try lowing SOC now and see if its stable
 
Thanks makes me feel like mines not too bad then!

seems stable with 1.37v and SOC at 1.000 now, I think I'll give it a try like this in gaming & see what the temps do now!

Might invest in a better cooler since I want games to run under 70c
 
I've reduced SOC to 1v now, and I've lowered overall volts to 1.35v, which rise to 1.39 under load, seems stable so far.. still maxes around 75c under Small FFTs

RAM at 2933mhz

I think this seems to be the sweet spot for now! a better cooloer should help the temps issue too

Hopefully a bios update can fix the RAM too
 
I play PUBG etc, but I also stream at the same time which puts a lot more stress on the CPU, might try changing the encode type from x264 to NEVC so it uses more GPU and less CPU?
 
Plec said:
Those temps a good now - running small FFTs at your voltages using that cooler.

The Gigabyte Extreme 1080Ti will get toasty and rids itself of heat very effectively - so the heat will have to go somewhere.

What case are you using? - this is where a quality vented cooler come into their own.


I would...

EDIT: I was slow with posting - but good to read you may be sorted...
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ONe thing now though, my RAM, on CPUZ the command rate is stuck at 2T even when I have it set to 1T in the BIOS?? it won't change now.. does it really matter?
 
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