Ryzen 7000G series might be coming after all

Zarax · 5 Oct 2023 at 08:48

AMD might be preparing Ryzen 7000G desktop series with Phoenix Zen4/RDNA3 silicon, new AGESA 1080 suggests - VideoCardz.com

AMD AGESA 1.0.8.0 adds Phoenix desktop APU support AMD Phoenix heading to launch on the AM5 platform. It has indeed been a significant amount of time since the last desktop APU launch from AMD. The company appears to have directed its attention towards its high-end gaming series, with products...

videocardz.com

Hopefully with RDNA3 and Zen4 cores along with DDR5 performance should be comparable to at least RX 580 level.

Jamin280672 · 6 Oct 2023 at 17:22

Zarax said:
AMD might be preparing Ryzen 7000G desktop series with Phoenix Zen4/RDNA3 silicon, new AGESA 1080 suggests - VideoCardz.com

AMD AGESA 1.0.8.0 adds Phoenix desktop APU support AMD Phoenix heading to launch on the AM5 platform. It has indeed been a significant amount of time since the last desktop APU launch from AMD. The company appears to have directed its attention towards its high-end gaming series, with products...

videocardz.com

Hopefully with RDNA3 and Zen4 cores along with DDR5 performance should be comparable to at least RX 580 level.

Very strange, especially as all Ryzen 7000's already have GPUs in them lol, so effectively they are already all G's.

FredFlint · 6 Oct 2023 at 18:53

Jamin280672 said:
Very strange, especially as all Ryzen 7000's already have GPUs in them lol, so effectively they are already all G's.

The desktop iGPU is week, its just to have a display out for office PC's. The 7000G's should be able to game.

jigger · 15 Oct 2023 at 12:21

FredFlint said:
The desktop iGPU is week, its just to have a display out for office PC's. The 7000G's should be able to game.

With DDR5 8000-9000 the 7000G has the potential to offer impressive integrated GP-GPU performance.

Freddie1980 · 15 Oct 2023 at 19:14

I can see these APU's becoming increasingly popular due to price graphics cards.

In the past these sort of chips normally get bought up by system builders like Dell and HP and get crippled with single channel slow memory but in the hands of consumers and enthusiasts these could be something else.

Zarax · 15 Oct 2023 at 20:04

With proper memory we could hope for something between RX 590 and Vega 56...

Deibu · 15 Oct 2023 at 21:25

I'd happily buy one of these of the performance is 580+

Grumbledook · 15 Oct 2023 at 23:08

It's better integrated graphics right?

Are they likely to be much higher priced?

Joxeon · 15 Oct 2023 at 23:55

Zarax said:
With proper memory we could hope for something between RX 590 and Vega 56...

if you want decent gaming performance though wouldn’t it just be better to buy a used 6600 for £100 and pair it with one of cheaper the non G chips and a cheap set of ram?

Zarax · 16 Oct 2023 at 06:08

Joxeon said:
if you want decent gaming performance though wouldn’t it just be better to buy a used 6600 for £100 and pair it with one of cheaper the non G chips and a cheap set of ram?

I still have decent performance with my RX 590.

jigger · 16 Oct 2023 at 10:11

Grumbledook said:
It's better integrated graphics right?

Are they likely to be much higher priced?

Will likely be a range of chips on offer.

LePhuronn · 23 Oct 2023 at 19:04

Jamin280672 said:
Very strange, especially as all Ryzen 7000's already have GPUs in them lol, so effectively they are already all G's.

Um, no. 2 CUs just to drive a couple of monitors so dime-a-dozen office PCs don't default to Intel does not make an APU. It's blatantly obvious this does not make an APU, so I don't see what's "strange".

PishY · 24 Oct 2023 at 21:16

Ah that will be interesting!

Be a jump up from a 5600x I’m sure

Cyber-Mav · 29 Oct 2023 at 19:45

PishY said:
Ah that will be interesting!

Be a jump up from a 5600x I’m sure

Considering 5600x doesnt have an igpu it will be a big jump indeed

Emlyn_Dewar · 30 Oct 2023 at 04:44

Ryzen 7000G Zen4 CPU series spotted

The same site has a newer story, and boy is it a depressing thing to read.

Interestingly, there is also a shipping manifest for Ryzen 7000G series. As pointed out by the source, AMD Ryzen 7000G desktop CPU series featuring Phoenix silicon but on AM5 package, may at least for now, only use Phoenix2 die, which is the smaller die with fewer cores.

Instead of the 8 Zen4 CPU cores and 12 RDNA3 Compute Units, the smaller die only offers 6 Zen4(c) cores and up to 4 CUs. At this point, it is unclear if AMD has a plan to bring more powerful APUs to the market, but then there is hardly any reason not to. AMD’s own desktop Raphael series also features RDNA graphics, but those are of older generation and only limited to 2 CUs.

AMD Ryzen 7000G (Phoenix-G)

Ryzen 5 PRO 7500G (100-000001183-00)

Ryzen 5 7500G (100-00000931-00)

Ryzen 3 7300G (100-000001187-00)

They really love to disappoint with APUs on the desktop. I've always been a huge fan of CPUs with enough power for light gaming. 6 core 4 CU is not exactly the 12 CU greatness I was hoping for.

JollyJamma · 30 Oct 2023 at 07:38

Zarax said:
AMD might be preparing Ryzen 7000G desktop series with Phoenix Zen4/RDNA3 silicon, new AGESA 1080 suggests - VideoCardz.com

AMD AGESA 1.0.8.0 adds Phoenix desktop APU support AMD Phoenix heading to launch on the AM5 platform. It has indeed been a significant amount of time since the last desktop APU launch from AMD. The company appears to have directed its attention towards its high-end gaming series, with products...

videocardz.com

Hopefully with RDNA3 and Zen4 cores along with DDR5 performance should be comparable to at least RX 580 level.

Isn’t it amazing that the RX 580 is still the defining benchmark for gaming on an APU to this day?

Speaks to how popular they were.

I just downgraded to an RX580 because I know the performance and I need native Linux support.

Wonder how good the AMD 7000G memory controller will be?

LePhuronn · 30 Oct 2023 at 08:08

Emlyn_Dewar said:
6 core 4 CU is not exactly the 12 CU greatness I was hoping for.

There is no 7700G in that list. I don't hear no fat lady singing just yet.

Freddie1980 · 30 Oct 2023 at 08:26

JollyJamma said:
Wonder how good the AMD 7000G memory controller will be?

64 bit like every other CPU out there, this will always be the brake on stopping AMD from giving us console like processors.

Saying that 4 CU's does seem a bit low given regular CPU's from Zen 4 have 2 on the IO die.

humbug · 31 Oct 2023 at 23:29

Emlyn_Dewar said:
Ryzen 7000G Zen4 CPU series spotted

The same site has a newer story, and boy is it a depressing thing to read.

They really love to disappoint with APUs on the desktop. I've always been a huge fan of CPUs with enough power for light gaming. 6 core 4 CU is not exactly the 12 CU greatness I was hoping for.

Yeah..... i don't get it!

Guys guys..... we have some really good CPU and GPU cores, why don't we combine the two to make a really good lower mid level gaming package, that would give us a unique product, we could fill a hole in the market that is not only desired so potentially hugely successful and our two main competitors don't have the IP or technology maturity to challenge us.

................................................................................................................................................................................................. no

Emlyn_Dewar · 1 Nov 2023 at 05:25

I'm not looking to upgrade my main PC, but the 2400G under the TV is definitely wanting to be replaced.
I could just get one of the many decent priced AMD mini-PCs but I'd really just prefer a matx board, CPU and memory to go into the console-sized case I've already got.

With normal desktop power limits, there is potential for some amazing performance in a small package.