Sack Brunstrom petition

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Hi,

As I'm sure you're all well aware, North Wales Chief Constable Richard Brunstrom has used images of a decapitated biker without the consent of his family, as part of a campaign launch.


Heres the url for the petition
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/RichardBrunstrom/


Here's a few more examples of his shining service record...

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/archive/87883/88015/88063/88071/?&R=EPI-88071
Richard Brunstrom, the notoriously anti-bike Chief Constable of North Wales Police, has done it again with a blog post slamming motorcyclists as “dangerous” and “reckless”.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/4889640.stm
North Wales chief constable Richard Brunstrom will not face disciplinary action after he revealed the name and address of a child sex victim.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13449128,00.html
Catseyes are set to become speed traps after Britain's top traffic officer revealed plans to hide tiny cameras in the reflective road studs. Richard Brunstrom, head of the Association of Chief Police Officers, says the Catseyes cameras will help trap persistent speeding motorists.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3564128.stm
Richard Brunstrom, head of road policing for the Association of Chief Police Officers, told the Times: "We have a particular problem with motorcyclists slowing down for the cameras but then speeding up and dying on the next corner.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/archive/86493/87271/87338/87356/?&R=EPI-87356
North Wales police have been set targets for the numbers and kinds of traffic offenders they catch each month.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=191136&in_page_id=1770
Anti-speeding Chief Constable Richard Brunstrom faced fresh controversy today after a paramedic was booked for driving an ambulance at 39mph.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=396710&in_page_id=1770
"The police chief who likes to trap illegal motorists in his spare time"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=378958&in_page_id=1770
Snowball fights have been banned in the region controlled by Britain's most controversial police chief.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=362800&in_page_id=1770
One of Britain's most controversial police forces spent nearly £4,000 on an inquiry into "anti-Welsh" comments made by Anne Robinson, it has emerged. Four senior officers from North Wales Police were called on to investigate the remarks made by the TV presenter on the BBC show Room 101.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3978957.stm
The chief constable of North Wales Police has admitted an "obsession" with tackling speeding motorists.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/real_story/3271595.stm
Speed camera protestors prepared to use explosives have been branded "terrorists" by the Association of Chief Police Officers spokesman, Richard Brunstrom.
 
The guy is an absolute ****, but petitions never make a blind bit of difference :(
 
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Why is he an idiot? Personally I think we are too soft here on the outcome of accidents as a result of speeding. Its about time somebody had the B*lls to show people what really happens when it goes wrong. Its not pretty.

I do think he should have got permission from the relatives first though.

People seem to think they are wonderful drivers and that they can control their vehicles and it wont happen to them. Wonder if the decapitated victims thought the same........
 
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I think most people are well aware of what can happen to the human body in a high speed impact.

However, wouldn't it be better to educate people on being better drivers/riders, so the accidents don't happen in the first place, at any speed?

Will accidents just stop happening alltogether if everyone stuck to speed limits?

Is it impossible to be decapitated in a motorcycle accident at 30mph?

I broke the speed limit on several occasions on the way to work today, and last time I checked I still had a head.

The problem is Mr Brunstom is obsessing about the wrong thing, and as such is losing sight of the real causes of accidents.......
 
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DreXeL said:
I think most people are well aware of what can happen to the human body in a high speed impact.

However, wouldn't it be better to educate people on being better drivers, so the accidents don't happen in the first place, at any speed?

Will accidents just stop happening alltogether if everyone stuck to speed limits?
Is it impossible to be decapitated in a motorcycle accident at 30mph?

The problem is Mr Brunstom is obsessing about the wrong thing, and as such is losing sight of the real causes of accidents.......
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Good post, and yea i think if you hit something thin enough to slice you at 30mph then yea i reckon it would decapitate you, but then again why isnt he stressing like other groups that certain stuff on our roads can make an accident worse, say if a biker come off and didnt hit something he would get up, but theres so much crap and pointless signs everywhere that make any accident worse not just bikes.
 
Dashik said:
Why is he an idiot? Personally I think we are too soft here on the outcome of accidents as a result of speeding.
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The problem being that accidents caused soley by speeding are a small minority of the total number of accidents, so concentrating all your effort on reducing speed related accidents is hardly going to help when you look at the bigger picture.

The guy is an idiot because he is obsessive about speed to the detriment of all other road saftey issues.
 
I think it taken a lot of balls to do what he did. Although i think its totally wrong he didnt ask the family and he loves his speed cameras far far too much, people just don't seem to learn if its not in their face to shock them. Sure you can be decapitated at 30 MPH, but the events that lead up the accident can be avoid easier, you might just be able to fall off the bike and suffer a broken arm. At 100MPH you wouldn't have a chance to react and if you come off the bike you're far more likely to suffer injuries greater than at 30mph (i'm just using two extremes to illustrate a point).
 
Gaygle said:
At 100MPH you wouldn't have a chance to react and if you come off the bike you're far more likely to suffer injuries greater than at 30mph (i'm just using two extremes to illustrate a point).
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I can illustrate the opposite argument with an extreme, though, by saying that by that reasoning we should all drive around in tanks at 1mph :p
 
The decapitated pics were only used for an internal presentation I thought? It's not like they were displayed on a huge billboard or on TV like the reports make you try to believe.
 
Dogbreath said:
The problem being that accidents caused soley by speeding are a small minority of the total number of accidents, so concentrating all your effort on reducing speed related accidents is hardly going to help when you look at the bigger picture.

The guy is an idiot because he is obsessive about speed to the detriment of all other road saftey issues.
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Its not the accident thats caused by speeding thats the problem. Its the consequences of the ones that are at high speed that cause the problems. Its like falling, its the sudden stop that hurts.......
 
i think he maybe has gone about it the wrong way.... but his point is valid, and i wouldnt like to see the man out of a job over it. saying that, he really should have asked for concent ...
 
Robotica said:
i wouldnt like to see the man out of a job over it.
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I would, and apparently most of the North Wales police would as well. With his obsessive behavior he's simply not serving the best interests of the public.
 
This is a man who admits to directing traffic while wearing a gorila mask. He shouldn't be allowed to run a bath.

Although his intentions are in the right place his judgement is nonexistant and he's not a suitable person to be a chief constable.

He's completely failing to under stand what causes accidents (as are most uk police forces). In the last five years deaths on the UK's roads have stopped declining and IMO driving standards have fallen. Everyone now thinks as long as they drive 2 mph below the posted limit they're safe.
 
Dashik said:
Why is he an idiot? Personally I think we are too soft here on the outcome of accidents as a result of speeding. Its about time somebody had the B*lls to show people what really happens when it goes wrong. Its not pretty.

I do think he should have got permission from the relatives first though.

People seem to think they are wonderful drivers and that they can control their vehicles and it wont happen to them. Wonder if the decapitated victims thought the same........
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speed isnt often the issue any more.... theres not enough traffic police around any more.

at least with bikers they understand if they get it wrong theyre not protected by a cage and the consequences are a lot more severe. but they also understand theyre less likely to take anyone with them as well.

i dont need showing a severed head to realise that...
 
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