Saddam Hussein Executed
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AcidHell2 said:
International law states that domestic courts should try persons suspected of these crimes before any international court (such as the Hague) has a look in. The Iraqis followed the law to the letter. Just because you or anyone else doesn't like it is irrelevant. It was the Iraqi's right and they used it.
AcidHell2 said:
As fair as I know it is irrelvant that he is ruler of Iraq. The domestic courts can still try him. Iraq is a signatory to a convention prohibiting genocide, he breached it and international law says he can be tried in domestic courts. There's nothing more to it.
And for people who say he was a prisoner of war... he wasn't. He was at one point but he was handed over to the Iraqi's recently. Not to mention the war, legally, ended years ago.
Therefore, there is no actual evidence that this wasn't a fair trial. It may not have been but no-one outside the system knows.
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Spawn said:Hmmm such a shame that the so called 'iraqi' court was nothing more than an american front. Damn you to hell Bush and Blair, hope you both rot in hell....to me them 2 arent any better than Saddam himself. Executing him was and is the worst possible punishement to have handed out.
All they have done is make him a martyr for his supporters...i imagine life in Iraq will get pretty grim in the next few days.
Anyone who sees this as a happy occassion...well shame on you...an eye for an eye isnt the best punishment tbh...id rather see him rot in jail than be made a martyr...a very sad day for justice imho.
It actually wasnt the iraqi people who ordered him to be executed...it was nothing more than a puppet american courtbut i dont expect you to believe me as it seems the media brainwashing mechanism is and will be in full swing by tommorrow.
By the by, to those saying that Saddam was a POW and thus couldn't be executed because of the Geneva Convention... This link is kinda interesting. Especially this bit:
"I am instructed by my Government to sign, making the following reservation to Article 68:
"The United States reserve the right to impose the death penalty in accordance with the provisions of Article 68, paragraph 2, without regard to whether the offences referred to therein are punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory at the time the occupation begins"
Basically, it seems that the Convention states that a POW can only be executed for certain offences, and only if they were punishable by death prior to the occupation. The US signed the convention with the exception of that part, so they can execute him regardless of whether his actions were an executable crime in Iraq at the start of the occupation.
"I am instructed by my Government to sign, making the following reservation to Article 68:
"The United States reserve the right to impose the death penalty in accordance with the provisions of Article 68, paragraph 2, without regard to whether the offences referred to therein are punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory at the time the occupation begins"
Basically, it seems that the Convention states that a POW can only be executed for certain offences, and only if they were punishable by death prior to the occupation. The US signed the convention with the exception of that part, so they can execute him regardless of whether his actions were an executable crime in Iraq at the start of the occupation.
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Jihad said:
Yes, he's a lovely man and I think he's now living somewhere with his family.
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people like him!! fair enough, if he just built up iraq and didnt kill shias or invade israel then he would still be in power and would be a great county where people respected.. same with hitler, he built up germany greatly, if only he didnt kill the jews and be so evil he woulda been respected
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salami1212 said:
Put down the crack pipe and walk slowly away
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starscream said:Put down the crack pipe and walk slowly away
Doesn't he have a point that both Saddam and Hitler were both great leaders who did a lot for their country as well as all the other stuff?
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cleanbluesky said:
He does. I think there can be little doubt that anyone who can secure the backing of an entire nation of people for whatever plans they have is a great leader. It's a crying shame when people use their immense leadership skills for evil purposes rather than good ones.
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cleanbluesky said:
You cannot seperate the methods they used with the outcome though. Hitler was able to strengthen the German economy in the short-term by initially reoccupation of the Rhineland then gearing manufacturing for war. This was done by selling off huge amounts of gold reserves.
If you look at unemployment statistics, on the face of it, it seems like an accomplishment of reducing unemployment from 6million to virtually nothing. This doesn't take into account the fact that Jews, Gypsies, socialists etc were just removed from their jobs and replaced by "aryan" unemployed Germans.
The methods he used undoubtedly looked on the surface like the economy was in good shape, and living conditions had improved for the average German, but they were such short term measures that the economy would soon have collapsed. Indeed the biggest thing to keep it going during wartime was forced labour camps.
So if you take a short term view and ignore the fact that millions of people were exploited in order to strengthen Germany for a group of people that the Nazis saw as racially acceptable, then yes, but you cannot imply that Hitler was a good strong leader, only let down because he was "evil". It was his express exploitation of other social groups that allowed him this strength, coupled with the invasion of economically rich territories and short term policies that would have drastic long term effects.
That said, the crack pipe comment was mostly aimed that the "Iraq invaded Isreal" line.
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Germany was under sanctions after the 1st world war, they had to pay money back for all the damage they caused; and was partly the reason why the 2nd world war started.cleanbluesky said:
Oil was found in the middle east which explains why someone I know who went to a middle east country claimed everyone drove around in Mercedes; Saddamn wouldnt have found oil on his own.
robmiller said:
Saddam used to get well over 99% support in elections, so he was obviously popular. FACT.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2331951.stm