Safari for windows

I'm a Mac user, and I really can't see why I'd want to use Safari on Windows. It's nice on OS X though. I think the main reason people will use it will be to test that their sites work properly without having to buy / borrow a Mac.
 
Stick to Firefox for now me thinks :)


Already, security vulnerabilities have been revealed within just a few hours of release. So far we're seeing a handful of denial-of-service bugs and at least two issues with Apple's code that would allow remote execution by a rogue host. Sure, some of the most visible claims come from the David Maynor who (in)famously called-out Apple with a MacBook WiFi hack only to be disemboweled by the hordes of Mac faithful. Still we're talking pre-release code so what do you expect? Besides, what better way to undermine an enemy than to present a concealed weapon in the form of a gift?
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Anyone else find that scrolling is terribly slow aswell ?
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Yep same here.

As for the font blurriness, that is exactly how it looks in OS X basically. It is also how it looks when you print in Windows - but Windows fonts are rendered differently on the screen (better IMO). Macs render them exactly the same on screen or for printing.
 
I have just tried Safari, the font problem hurts my eyes, and Safari also loads slower for me, I have opera open with about 30 tabs open too, and I load overclockers.co.uk in safari, then Opera, and Opera loads a hell of allot quicker than safari, I dont know why they put that chart on the apple site, its a load of rubbish for me, Opera is the fastest ever, as far as IE7 is concerned, thats crap, I would rather use safari to that.

Does safari not have tabs too? Thats blown it for me aswell.
 
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From PC Pro -

"As we reported earlier this week, Apple has made a public beta of the staple Mac web browser, Safari, available for Windows users for the first time. Promising to be quicker, easier to use and safer than Internet Explorer, we couldn't resist putting it to the test.

Apple makes a big fuss about the security of Safari, with a "designed to be secure from day one" claim. Unfortunately, within hours of the beta being made publicly available, Windows security researchers were able to find multiple vulnerabilities, including Denial of Service and remote code execution bugs.

But perhaps it could be more stable? Afraid not: we experienced several crashes during testing. Okay, so this is a beta, but unlike the Firefox-derived Netscape Navigator 9 Beta (which didn't crash or hang once) there's no ability to restore a previous browser session following such a disaster.

There's nothing here to get excited about when it comes to features either. The built-in pop-up blocking is now par for the web browser course,
as is the tabbed browsing and RSS-reading capability. The ability to resize text boxes embedded in the web page is nice, but offset by the fact that Safari uses OS X font anti-aliasing technology, which results in a distinctly fuzzy text-reading experience on Windows when compared to IE7's ClearType.

Another annoying legacy from Safari's OS X origins is its inability to resize the browser window from anywhere but the bottom right corner and, defying Windows convention, not using Ctrl+Tab to cycle through tabs.

So what does Safari have going for it? The answer is speed, and lots of it. Apple has already made lots of fuss about Safari's page-rendering speed on the Windows platform, so we put that to the test by timing how long it took the PC Pro home page to load from a newly fired up and cache-emptied browser. IE7 was predictably slow at 7.09 seconds, Firefox faster at 5.25 but Safari won out on 4.06 seconds. Not quite the twofold increase over IE7 that Apple is claiming, but not far off.

What Apple won't be so bullish about is the system resource usage. It clocked in at a memory hogging 38,372KB compared to 34,792KB for IE7 and 25,772KB for Firefox when displaying the same web page.

Ultimately, this additional memory load, the interface inconsistencies, stability issues and potential security problems make Safari's promising speed hike merely incidental."
 
willhub said:
I have just tried Safari, the font problem hurts my eyes, and Safari also loads slower for me, I have opera open with about 30 tabs open too, and I load overclockers.co.uk in safari, then Opera, and Opera loads a hell of allot quicker than safari, I dont know why they put that chart on the apple site, its a load of rubbish for me, Opera is the fastest ever, as far as IE7 is concerned, thats crap, I would rather use safari to that.

Does safari not have tabs too? Thats blown it for me aswell.
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Yes it does have tabs. But You need to use the keyboard or a menu - it's the Apple way ;) (ie. crap)

There seems to be no option to have new windows open in a new tab either - unless you hold down ctrl :rolleyes: In Apple's mind this is 'better' than the way other browsers do it.

What really annoys me is, why do all of Apple's Windows apps, ie. Safari, Quicktime and iTunes, not behave like regular Windows apps - why do Apple refuse to conform to convention. Then their programs wouldn't be so sluggish, we'd be able to resize them from any edge, they'd have Windows font rendering, they'd use the Windows skinning engine etc. etc. :rolleyes:

I'm glad others agree with me about the fonts. I've always said Windows' fonts are superior and easier to read on the screen and been ridiculed by Mac supporters for saying so.
 
Another problem with Safari is that because it uses the OSX font rendering system, which uses a different dpi to Windows, many websites have tiny text in Safari because the sites were designed for the majority of users, ie. Windows. You need a magnifying glass to read the text on ebay listings for example :D


Gotta love Apple's disingenuous marketing BS as well... giving the impression that Safari has a large and growing market share with this misleading graph.

http://www.engadget.com/photos/wwdc-keynote-photo-gallery/272119/
 
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Apple are liers, its also slow at loading for me compared to Opera (Opera with 27 different tabs open), I cant belive on there site there making out its the fastest browser and then in HTML performance putting Opera at the slowest when its proberbly one of the fastest.

I just tried this Acid test on IE, and wtf? its a big square of red with bits on the left lol.
 
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And is it just me or there is still no way of changing search engine to custom (for example google.co.uk), only switch between google and yahoo?
 
Thought I'd drag this thread up from *** dead instead of starting a new one. I've reinstalled the newer version of Safari today so it I can let iTunes sync my bookmarks to my iPod Touch. So far it's much better than it was the last time I tried it. Turned the font smoothing off and it looks like normal. Only problem for me is there's no way to make it open links in to tabs by default. Oh, and the scrolling's slower than I'm used to.

Anyone else tried it again ?
 
I tried it recently because it's nice on my touch, and I went straight back to firefox because the extra mouse buttons weren't supported. "1.6 times faster" doesn't make a difference if I have to spend time locating and clicking on the browser's 'back' button :(
 
I've just tried it myself and it does seem quicker at times but as it has less functions you find yourself searching for things that arn't their in Safari.

In FF I can copy and paste and then hit an arrow button with the mouse and it goes to the page in Safari I have to hit return on the keyboard.

Also I carn't get it to open my Hotmail messages it did at first.

Maybe if you just browsing it's ok but if you need to do other things it's very basic.
 
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