Samsung 65KS8000 or LG OLED55B6V

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My 55JS8000 lost a battle with a flying phone so now is time to decide between these 2 TV's.

They're the same price at £1749 although shops are now increasing the price of the B6 to £1999 :eek: can people stop praising this TV too much :D Is OLED really that much better, I went 2 Currys shops but all the TV's were randomly calibrated bar the huge Samsung FALD which was very bright & colourful.
I have a Very discount code that may get me 20% off the B6, making it £1600, or is it best to wait? What bugs me about Very is their non return policy once connected... thinking of a dead pixel nightmare. Can an OLED have a dead pixel out the box?

My requirements are:
movies: Netflix, Amazon, Xbox 4k HDR10 blue ray (mostly in the dark)
gaming: Xbox S upscaled to 4k sometimes in HDR or use TV upscaling if better?
tv shows 1080/4k some HDR: Netflix, Amazon = 80% of TV usage
tv: mostly in BBC News
YouTube 4k HDR if possible

The pro's & con's as I see them:

B6
better movies in dark
less bright, similar to JS8000?
will the UK get the firmware fix for gaming lag & motion control

KS8000
much brighter but what about peak ramp up times?
poor at movies in dark
better at HDR gaming due to more vivid higher brightness
as screen is bigger can position in a better location further from sofa
JS8000 had very buggy software eg. having to correct DTS/Dolby for every input, is KS the same?

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65KS9000 curved is also £1749
 
if the same price id be inclined to go for the B6 BUT at the same time peak brightness is important to me as I have a relativley bright room, i dont watch all my tv in the dead of night so id say the ks8000 was a better all rounder....I say that as im about to buy a ks8000

Do you play many games as i know the ks8000 has better input lag

As a side note...i now live in the states....you can get the ks8000 for about $1500, maybe consider importing and paying the tax...might work out cheaper
 
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Yeah the KS8000 appears the safer bet especially for gaming.
The KS9000 is the same price but thats curved.
There is a diference in model numbers with the States as the UK 8000 is the same as the US 9000 & UK 9000 is = to US 9500.
Prices seam to be up in the air atm, which is to be expected before the 2017 range land in the shops.
 
ard-tullaich said:
Where have you seen the Samsung 65ks800 for £1749 ?
I to am looking at the Samsung or Lg oled 65" though I am hearing good things about the Hisense 65m7000
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Don't get me wrong, the Hisense is a great midrange TV and very cheap for the size.

But it doesn't compare to a 65KS8000 or 65B6V OLED

OP - If you were comparing 'like for like' screen sizes then the OLED is a no brainer - However the extra 10 inches of screen space you would get on the Samsung for the same price can't be sniffed at. In your situation I would probably get the 65KS8000

I own an LG 65B6V
 
ard-tullaich said:
Where have you seen the Samsung 65ks800 for £1749 ?
I to am looking at the Samsung or Lg oled 65" though I am hearing good things about the Hisense 65m7000
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my dad has the 65M7000 and i calibrated it and skin tones still have a red tint to them

however it is a budget to mid range tv and as such if your looking at OLED you shouldn't be looking at any hisense.
 
I have the KS8000 OP, fantastic Telly, you won't go wrong with either one but the Samsung seems to be a nice telly when it comes to gaming, i've not tried the LG Oled series.

Saying that i manly watch Movies on my T.V and just for that reason alone i'd get the OLED if i had the choice to repurchase.

Either way you'll be very happy and shouldn't be disappointed.

Good luck!
 
Ive been used to a 55JS8000 & the peak brightness in Man in the High Castle ep1 was good & Daredevel s2 colours were awesome. Although the blacks were never amazing in films like Underworld.

A 65" does sound appealing from a more homeley position but the better colours of a 55" OLED makes it a tough call. I'm worried about bad pixels on an OLED too.

I may find another TV shop to try & compare the 2 TV's again.
 
Can't you just save up a bit longer and get the 65B6? :p

The new 2017 range is due March/April so likely to be more price drops for stock clearance. The general consensus seems to be that once someone has an OLED or has seen a properley setup one and have OLED kind of money then they don't seem to consider any alternatives, so that should tell you enough. But, you will always want a bigger TV which makes 65" a bit of a no brainer, I think I last saw the B6 65" as cheap as £2400 on some sites a few weeks ago, give it a few weeks and I wouldn't be surprised if it was closer to £2000. They have upped the prices a bit now it seems but thats due to how fast they were flying out, but once the 2017 range has a due date they will want to shift the old stock and not take the attention away from the newer B7 models.

I don't know how long it would take to save the extra £300-400 but it would probably be worth it in the long run.
 
This spec me a TV has changed from a 65KS8000 or LG OLED55B6V to an OLED55E6V & finally a Panasonic 58DX902 FALD.

65KS8000 I thought was the worst, partly because the peak brightness takes time to ramp up & the bottom edge lighting will wreck letterbox blacks unlike my old JS8000.
OLED55B6V has a gaming lag issue which LG refuse to let the UK have, plus possibly motion issues.
OLED55E6V was a bit too expensive plus a lot to pay for only 600nits when high HDR nits are the future.
Still mopping up on the DX902 research & after a visit to Currys its flipping feet are 46 inches apart! - 7 inches wider than my stand :(
Currys stuffed the 902 up a corner (far away from the Samy FALD) & had it showing the same demo as a 55" low end £800 Samy & the Samy looked way better. Looked like they dropped the settings of the 902 or its default settings are bland.
 
Got a 58dx902 yesterday 1750 + 73 for a ub700 as a deal. I think that was a good price. The E6 was really out of my price & got no TV so acted quick.
Ironically i tried a few LG HDR demos & omg compared to the JS8000 its in anothwr league.
Man in high castle peak brightness first 5 mins ep1 was very bright.
Gaming at 37ms is fine in 4k hdr on the xbox.
Will leave a review if anyone interested.
 
VincentHanna said:
Trust me, 600 nits is plenty with an OLED.

LG aren't refusing to let us B6V owners have the HDR game mode, it's just taking a while.
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Nope, it isn't..... You get visible clipping due to how HDR content is mastered.

People really need to understand what HDR is and what peak brightness / nits actually means.
 
juno_first said:
Got a 58dx902 yesterday 1750 + 73 for a ub700 as a deal. I think that was a good price. The E6 was really out of my price & got no TV so acted quick.
Ironically i tried a few LG HDR demos & omg compared to the JS8000 its in anothwr league.
Man in high castle peak brightness first 5 mins ep1 was very bright.
Gaming at 37ms is fine in 4k hdr on the xbox.
Will leave a review if anyone interested.
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Great buy mate.

Think you've made the right choice tbh. Especially due to the peak brightness on the Panasonic, it really is a class leading set. Shame you couldn't hold out a few months though, with the new sets dropping. Then again, god knows how much they will cost.

Worth noting in future though, peak brightness bursting for a short time period isn't really an issue. It's only a very small percentage of content where you'll ever actually observe the drop off.. It's also likely to be more common as nits levels continue to rise, mainly to keep power draw under control and meet all those pesky energy effiency rules.
 
Yes, very pleased with the Panasonic FALD. 1250 nits is more than twice the old JS8000. The colours are so much more natural even before calibration. Can't really hear the 6 fans.
Ironically the LG Jazz demo looks a lot better than JS8000. This TV truly is remarkable. Granted, new tech is just around the corner but would have to wait until Nov for prices to drop within my reach.
4000 nits referenced UHD does posturise the absolute peak brightness, as you say on the rare occasion, but guess that's software as the Samsung FALD does not posturise with 1430 nits.
 
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