Misses works for NetApp if you need a discount
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I may email once i get in back work on monday about that if thats ok
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I may email once i get in back work on monday about that if thats ok
Just my two pennies:
The only reason we don't buy more EVA is power usage and disc density. We want 500-600TB in a rack not 63TB. We have in the last 6 months bought about a petabyte of netapp.
- Netapp: Good kit I have been using it for nine years and still like it
- EVA: Great kit but its a block device not a NAS, others in the group manage them and they like the lun visualization.
- BlueArc: rearrange the following "touch pole foot a not with ten would", its metadata performance is sadly lacking.
The only reason we don't buy more EVA is power usage and disc density. We want 500-600TB in a rack not 63TB. We have in the last 6 months bought about a petabyte of netapp.
I may email once i get in back work on monday about that if thats ok
no probs dude
Stelly
Interesting thread - I thought this forum was mostly full of people installing 2k3 on a desktop in their loft Not seen an ML115 reccomended yet 
My 2p, although I dont have direct experience of much of the kit in question - but if the NetApp has proven to be good kit for you and been reliable then I'd stick with NetApp; especially if you are experienced in administering it. Maybe look at negotiating a 5 year service plan if that's become the main issue?
Alternatively, why not look at getting a third party to support it?
Not seen an ML115 reccomended yet My 2p, although I dont have direct experience of much of the kit in question - but if the NetApp has proven to be good kit for you and been reliable then I'd stick with NetApp; especially if you are experienced in administering it. Maybe look at negotiating a 5 year service plan if that's become the main issue?
Alternatively, why not look at getting a third party to support it?
Interesting thread - I thought this forum was mostly full of people installing 2k3 on a desktop in their loft
My 2p, although I dont have direct experience of much of the kit in question - but if the NetApp has proven to be good kit for you and been reliable then I'd stick with NetApp; especially if you are experienced in administering it. Maybe look at negotiating a 5 year service plan if that's become the main issue?
Alternatively, why not look at getting a third party to support it?
To give you a idea of the cost of renewing the support on the NetApp 3020c and shelf’s for another 3 years is in excess of 400K
The problem with NetApp and i guess other storage vendors is they have a pretty much set price when it comes to renewals, so they don't have the figures to play around with like new equipment.
Ideally i am pushing to stay with NetApp; it’s just a question of getting the right price for the accounts department to be happy with.
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The trick isn't making the netapp cheap so much as making the alternatives cost comparable anyway. How much productivity would be lost due to unfamiliarity with a new product, what are the costs of training, loads of things get bundled in here...
Usually gets rid of the accounts department when they start moaning...
Usually gets rid of the accounts department when they start moaning...
Ive done abit of looking about for break fix type warrenty but there just isn't the market for the UK like there is the US.
Well its much cheaper to buy new kit thats more powerful also the old kit is just about coping with the demands place upon it.
To give you a idea of the cost of renewing the support on the NetApp 3020c and shelf’s for another 3 years is in excess of 400K
Given that the 3020c is an intel system check how much a 3140C is when you migrate the shelves across. I can't see how buying a 3140 can come anywhere near your support contract price.
Netapp have silly list prices and no one pays them, I can't honestly say what discounts we get now however in the past I have personally negotiated quiet reasonable discounts. How much disc do you need and what kind of performance do you need of the volumes ?