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Sandbridge/P67 - early 2011

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Sounds more likely that these chips will be out in Q1.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3922/intels-sandy-bridge-architecture-exposed

Any thoughts on the prices of the i5 2500K chips? Probably the only one I'd be interested in and maybe worth waiting to upgrade to?

There are a few details about regarding the P67 boards too

http://www.fudzilla.com/motherboard...-unveils-p67-based-dp67gb-burrage-motherboard

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/idf-2010-sandy-bridge-lga-1155,2747-3.html

Bulldozer will be too late for me as I want to build two new rigs before SWTOR is released but these do look interesting:cool:
 
A little bit on Sandy Bridge:

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/processors/2010/09/14/intel-shows-off-sandy-bridge-processor-40090085/

From what I understand about them, it sounds like they are more a mass consumer chip rather than an enthusiats chip.

Its an all in one chip for the mass market, ie those people who buy their pc's ready made.....

Then again, there might be an enthusast class sandybridge.

My bet is that the AMD Bulldozer, is going to be the one that the enthusast market turn too.
 
I got bored of reading slideshows. As long as its better than the existing I5/I7. Thats all I need to know. Been waiting to replace my Q6600 and skip a gen like the graphics card.
 
A little bit on Sandy Bridge:

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/processors/2010/09/14/intel-shows-off-sandy-bridge-processor-40090085/

From what I understand about them, it sounds like they are more a mass consumer chip rather than an enthusiats chip.

Its an all in one chip for the mass market, ie those people who buy their pc's ready made.....

Then again, there might be an enthusast class sandybridge.

My bet is that the AMD Bulldozer, is going to be the one that the enthusast market turn too.

There are some "K" chips i.e. the 2500K I referred to which should cater to the enthusiast market. Assuming the prices are reasonable;)
 
its good news its coming out early 2011, I think considering how powerful these core i5/i7 already is there will be very reason to upgrade for a long time especially if getting the 2nd gen cpus.

But looking at that anandtech review it seems the Core i7-2600 performance will still be behind a 980X ? although from his previews it seems a Core i5-2-2400 is performing close and well...

looks like the core i7-2600 is taking over the Core i7-950 cpu...

That K version may proove a good deal :)
 
its good news its coming out early 2011, I think considering how powerful these core i5/i7 already is there will be very reason to upgrade for a long time especially if getting the 2nd gen cpus.

But looking at that anandtech review it seems the Core i7-2600 performance will still be behind a 980X ? although from his previews it seems a Core i5-2-2400 is performing close and well...

looks like the core i7-2600 is taking over the Core i7-950 cpu...

That K version may proove a good deal :)

Agreed, I just looked at the performance figures, much faster than I expected:eek: The 2500k at $200 approx, guessing the same in £'s will be just at the point I was looking at....
 
doubt it, as they'd of released it before the new socket came out or was even announced

my browsing suggests that it will just enable the next speed of ddr3 after 1866mhz is ratified as a jdec spec. should be able to select anything up to 2133 mhz without too much hassle if you have the money to buy the ram.

8gig 1600 > 4 gig 2133 imo

although ram prices are said to be coming down between now and xmas so it may not be silly to jump on 8 gig 1833 as the value for money speed on the new cpu and chipset.

Dan
 
Wrong street dude, ^ oh yeah right, I forget overclocked i7 cihps are soo slow....

1366 and skip this generation of sandy's if you know whats good for you, and your bank account.

1366 still supported supposedly for another 2-3 years. nice life, look at the 775 that went well.
 
Quick question been waiting for news from Intels IDF on SSD's while i wait obviously news about Sandybridge comes out i was planning on getting Intel Core i7 950 is it worth waiting for the new sandybridge CPU's or when they launch they will be far more expensive than £230?

Should i just stick with socket 1366 and then when upgrading maybe skip a gen till the new processors after Sandy
 
Thanks guys i want to start collecting the bits for my new sandy bridge build.

I'd save the money and buy all together when they come out. RAM is in oversupply and is coming down in price over the next 3-4 months. New 6xxx cards are due out from ATI soonish too...

With reference to pricing it seems that the new parts will replace their existing equivalents price point, so the new i5's won't cost more than the existing i7's.
 
Quick question been waiting for news from Intels IDF on SSD's while i wait obviously news about Sandybridge comes out i was planning on getting Intel Core i7 950 is it worth waiting for the new sandybridge CPU's or when they launch they will be far more expensive than £230?

Should i just stick with socket 1366 and then when upgrading maybe skip a gen till the new processors after Sandy

Just stick with 1366, with the price cuts of the 950 they should be picked up if you are thinking of i7. Skip sandy bridge and see what the next gen has in store.
 
I'm struggling to understand Sandybridge.

So can you only get the SB's with a GPU built in?

If so can you disable the in chip GPU to allow a third party GPU to be used?

And surely adding an GPU is going to slow the chip down?

Again i don't really understand Sandybridge, so apologies in advance.
 
So can you only get the SB's with a GPU built in?

The first SB chips to launch in Jan are replacing the current Pentium G/Core i3/i5/ i7 1156 processors and will all have on die graphics.

If so can you disable the in chip GPU to allow a third party GPU to be used?

You sure can.

And surely adding an GPU is going to slow the chip down?

Wouldn;t have thought so as it will be powered down/disabled.

Again i don't really understand Sandybridge, so apologies in advance.

Later in the year there will SB chips based on the rumored 2011 socket which will replace the current high end 1366 chips.
 
All news sofar points to this chip not being overclockable.

The chip also has an enhanced version of Intel's Turbo Boost mechanism, where individual cores could be run faster than normal if others were quiescent, providing that the overall power consumption would not exceed design limits. Sandy Bridge allows all cores to run faster for between 10 and 25 seconds if it has been previously running slower than normal and is cool enough to absorb the pulse of extra energy.

I wonder if this 'Boost' feature could be the exploit to overclocking it? If the chip has sufficient cooling then it could stay permanently in boost mode? We will see.
 
The first SB chips to launch in Jan are replacing the current Pentium G/Core i3/i5/ i7 1156 processors and will all have on die graphics.



You sure can.



Wouldn;t have thought so as it will be powered down/disabled.



Later in the year there will SB chips based on the rumored 2011 socket which will replace the current high end 1366 chips.

Thanks for clearing some things up.
 
Overclocking details are posted in Anandtech blog, quoted below

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3922/intels-sandy-bridge-architecture-exposed/8

With Sandy Bridge, Intel integrated the clock generator, usually present on the motherboard, onto the 6-series chipset die. While BCLK is adjustable on current Core iX processors, with Sandy Bridge it’s mostly locked at 100MHz. There will be some wiggle room as far as I can tell, but it’s not going to be much. Overclocking, as we know it, is dead.

Well, not exactly.

Intel makes three concessions.

First and foremost we have the K-series parts. These will be fully unlocked, supporting multipliers up to 57x. Sandy Bridge should have more attractive K SKUs than what we’ve seen to date. The Core i7 2600 and 2500 will both be available as a K-edition. The former should be priced around $562 and the latter at $205 if we go off of current pricing.

Secondly, some regular Sandy Bridge processors will have partially unlocked multipliers. The idea is that you take your highest turbo multiplier, add a few more bins on top of that, and that’ll be your maximum multiplier. It gives some overclocking headroom, but not limitless. Intel is still working out the details for how far you can go with these partially unlocked parts, but I’ve chimed in with my opinion and hopefully we’ll see something reasonable come from the company. I am hopeful that these partially unlocked parts will have enough multipliers available to make for decent overclocks.

Finally, if you focus on multiplier-only overclocking you lose the ability to increase memory bandwidth as you increase CPU clock speed. The faster your CPU, the more data it needs and thus the faster your memory subsystem needs to be in order to scale well. As a result, on P67 motherboards you’ll be able to adjust your memory ratios to support up to DDR3-2133.

Personally, I’d love nothing more than for everything to ship unlocked. The realities of Intel’s business apparently prevent that, so we’re left with something that could either be a non-issue or just horrible.

If the K-series parts are priced appropriately, which at first indication it seems they will be, then this will be a non-issue for a portion of the enthusiast market. You’ll pay the same amount for your Core i7 2500K as you would for a Core i5 750 and you’ll have the same overclocking potential.

Regardless of how they’re priced, what this is sure to hurt is the ability to buy a low end part like the Core i3 530 and overclock the crap out of it. What Intel decides to do with the available multiplier headroom on parts further down the stack is unknown at this point. If Intel wanted to, it could pick exciting parts at lower price points, give them a few more bins of overclocking headroom and compete in a more targeted way with AMD offerings at similar price points. A benevolent Intel would allow enough headroom as the parts can reliably hit with air cooling
 
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