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Sandy E to Ivy-E?

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If I have a Sandy E cpu and mobo...when Ivy E chips come out can I drop one into the existing mobo or would I need a new rig?

Is Haswell basically Ivybridge E? or is it another new chip and chipset?
 
Haswell is a whole new socket and chipset.

As for IB-E on current x79 chipset I'm not sure, its looking like it will support ddr4 so that would indicate a new chipset. Only time will tell.
 
Further to that my guess is that you will be able to run one on an x79 but will be lacking some features like the way you can run ivy on z68 or z77.
 
Yup, we won't know more until something gets leaked with regards to a possible replacement chipset to X79.

I only draw the conclusion that we will see a fresh chipset for IB-E based motherboards based on DDR4 now being officially recognised/authenticated/whatever by JDEC, reports suggesting we will see it implemented in chipsets from 2013, which points the finger at IB-E, possibly Haswell.

I hope its true that some features can be dropped to remain on X79 as it would save me initial cost on a new motherboard, though if the DDR4 thing is true then I don't think that would be possible.
 
Ivy-E is (from news so far) a direct CPU only upgrade, possible BIOS update required. Think of it like Ivybridge, better IMC and smaller fab etc enabling them to ramp the clocks and give the desktop market those two extra cores unlocked.
Assume 4,6 and 8 core variety.
DDR4 is highly unlikely at this point. It will be entering the market sometime next year but not the next E CPU. Even Haswell is DDR3 the last time I checked. Haswell E(P) will have a DDR4 IMC however.


The news, road maps and DDR4 info are already posted here and about. Though no official word from intel as of yet.
 
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Rossi~ said:
Ivy-E is (from news so far) a direct CPU only upgrade, possible BIOS update required. Think of it like Ivybridge, better IMC and smaller fab etc enabling them to ramp the clocks and give the desktop market those two extra cores unlocked.
Assume 4,6 and 8 core variety.
DDR4 is highly unlikely at this point. It will be entering the market sometime next year but not the next E CPU. Even Haswell is DDR3 the last time I checked. Haswell E(P) will have a DDR4 IMC however.


The news, road maps and DDR4 info are already posted here and about. Though no official word from intel as of yet.
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Most have DDR4 hitting the market about 2014
 
Ahhh I see, I just recall reading an article on DDR4 being classified by JDEC the other day stating it expects to see it on desktop chipsets by mid 2013.

A direct CPU upgrade with a BIOS update suits me, means less money spent :)
 
Rossi~ said:
Assume 4,6 and 8 core variety.
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whats led you to assume 8 core could be an option? geniune question just interested, i'd definetly buy an 8 core ivybridge if i could, 6 core i'm not so sure i'd upgrade to from my current sb-e.
 
Zuban said:
whats led you to assume 8 core could be an option? geniune question just interested, i'd definetly buy an 8 core ivybridge if i could, 6 core i'm not so sure i'd upgrade to from my current sb-e.
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Well you have 8 already but with the 2 cores disabled, one of the main reasons is to keep the tdp/heat and power down to a minimum. Now with a the lower power usage of the IVY-E with its small fab process, it will be much easier to run such a chip on desktop. Little demand however I'm sure, just for video/graphics work outside of server/vm usage but would most likely see it as an Intel Extreme chip anyway, definitely wouldn't expect it to be a standard chip under £800.
 
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Well you have 8 already but with the 2 cores disabled, one of the main reasons is to keep the tdp/heat and power down to a minimum. Now with a the lower power usage of the IVY-E with its small fab process, it will be much easier to run such a chip on desktop. Little demand however I'm sure, just for video/graphics work outside of server/vm usage but would most likely see it as an Intel Extreme chip anyway, definitely wouldn't expect it to be a standard chip under £750.
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yeah i see what you mean, it would be nice if they released a chip like the 3930k but 8 core but i am a bit worried that they wont do that again because there seems little objective reason to choose the current extreme version and pay the extra lol.
 
I would have no problem paying £800 for an 8 core processor providing it oced to the same level as an i7 3960x. Or putting it another way it had better have good single core performance. If it overclocks like some of the standard ivy bridge cpus I will stick with SB-E.
 
Kaapstad said:
I would have no problem paying £800 for an 8 core processor providing it oced to the same level as an i7 3960x. Or putting it another way it had better have good single core performance. If it overclocks like some of the standard ivy bridge cpus I will stick with SB-E.
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Same, because then you would be sorted for a good 4-5 years!
 
pgi947 said:
Me too, the possibility of 8C16T on IB-E is one of the reasons I resisted buying a hex core on SB-E.
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Is this for work related or epeen reasons? genuine question :)

I dunno what benefits an 8 core monster would give to most day to day stuff, even gaming. Overkill?

I ask as workstation stuff likes more cores hence the use for professional purposes.
 
i'd definetly buy an 8 core IB-E should funds allow at the time, usually have my 3930k rendering all day so get the most out of it, its a good heater too lol.
 
I've been a bit unsure over a 3830K for the same reasons, I'm expecting an 8 core socket 2011 i7 to come out as soon as I'm past the DSR cut off point.
 
subbytna said:
Is this for work related or epeen reasons? genuine question :)

I dunno what benefits an 8 core monster would give to most day to day stuff, even gaming. Overkill?

I ask as workstation stuff likes more cores hence the use for professional purposes.
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Quite a few reasons tbh:

Benching, especially 3dmark loves more cores/threads at a higher speed

Encoding, as above, most multi thread encoding apps (expressions) love move cores/threads

Games, we don't know whats around the corner, heck even cry engine 3 may support more than 8 threads ;)
 
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