Sat-Nav car jacking

[Solari]

Someone made a grab for my coat through my passenger window once - quick touch on the window button and I managed to drag him to the local nick which was 400m away - Police were very grateful and charged him with attempted theft.

Plus, just lock your doors?

Haha I'd have loved to have seen that Bet he was screaming all sorts at you!

 

[Demon]

Unfortunately most peoples view on "self defence" is coloured by the media which seems to relish in propogating the idea that as someone on the receiving end of violence, defending oneself is tantamount to being the attacker.

Speaking for myself and understanding the law(regardless of the way a jury may interpret it) I would have no issue with taking preemptive defensive measures if I believed that I was about to be attacked. Hitting someone in the face as a defensive measure as you suggest would be skirting on the cusp of what I would call reasonable, as it obviously has the possibility of causing irreperable harm or even death.

You may have no issue with using pre-emptive force, neither do I, however, in the eyes of the law it would seem one step further away from a cut and dry case of self defense.. You not only have the proof of using reasonable force to contend with, but the whether your attack was justified in the first place (i.e. a mistake).. Especially if you are carrying an offensive weapon (i.e. Breaker bar)..

I don't think the media colour people's views as much as case law does either..

I can't remember the details, nor be bothered to search, but someone on here had some road rage incident with a Van driver that got right up to his face, he quite rightly pushed the guy away, who fell on his ass. The Van driver then claimed assault (or something like that) and it was upheld..

 

[Marf]

You may have no issue with using pre-emptive force, neither do I, however, in the eyes of the law it would seem one step further away from a cut and dry case of self defense.. You not only have the proof of using reasonable force to contend with, but the whether your attack was justified in the first place (i.e. a mistake).. Especially if you are carrying an offensive weapon (i.e. Breaker bar)..

I never said I'd use the breaker bar in my defence. If someone stuck there arm in the door to try and grab my satnav it'd be pretty useless. I'd be better off trying to grab their hand or close the door on their arm.

 

[Demon]

I never said I'd use the breaker bar in my defence. If someone stuck there arm in the door to try and grab my satnav it'd be pretty useless. I'd be better off trying to grab their hand or close the door on their arm.

Indeed, and don't get me wrong, I'm totally with you on defending yourself no matter what.. But unfortunately I don't share your belief in the legal system that my actions will be easily justifiable in a court of law..

 

[Marf]

Fair enough, I get where you're coming from