satnav drama and state of roads again.

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so not pot holes this time but on way back from fruit farm with my lad the satnav auto rerouted me due to traffic issues.....
and it took us down some right "wrong turn" type roads.

even in the best of times it was a narrow road but it got steadily worse and worse. about one mile in I was driving over pure mud and brambles and branches were raking down both sides of the car and even the roof. brambles were growing across the whole road
I was terrified we would meet another car as there were no passing places. by the time I realised I absolutely balls up I would have been looking to reverse close to a mile .
our lad was scared out of his wits as well as both sides of the cars proximity alerts were just beeping permenantly.
I was dreading getting home and seeing the damage.... luckily it seems jaguar paint is a bit more hard wearing than my old nissan and other than a few light scratches and pulling some plant out of the grille, bumpers and wheel arches I mostly got away with it. a combination of gutted and relieved.
back when I was a kid farmers were paid to look after these sort of roads and trim hedges but not here it seems.
Google maps does not do it justice as it was taken when the hedges were neatly trimmed and you can see tarmac.. but near my folks there is a road with a big sign saying unsuitable for vehicles in better state than this is now.
apt name as well

vent over :)

 
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That does look awful. I generally use TomTom for my satnav duties and that sends me down some really awful roads sometimes. The problem is that it knows these roads are NSL so assumes you can do 60mph down it but the reality is you'd be crazy to even do 20-30 at times.
 
truth is I would have loved it in our old nissan QQ or my wife's pug 308. I like a bit of off piste driving and back in the day when I have my (really old) pug 306 I used to go out in snow and hunt down roads like that (there are a few near my parents).

but in a new (to me) car which cost me 40% of my house.....,.. not fun at all
 
Farmers aren't meant to cut hedges until September unless there's a major visibility issue so that's why country lanes all look like that nowadays.

If you want to live/drive in the country you need a car you don't care about really as there's no getting away from the scratches, especially when you need to stuff it into one of those hedges to pass someone!

The satnav in my Avensis is the same, it'll blindly send you do the tiniest roads so i never trust it!
 
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when i was a kid my dad would get paid to cut hedges and verges, empty dykes and ditches and grit in winter. Councils are skint now so those payments all stopped many years ago.
 
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'Big' mike scared by a hedge. :cry: :p
More accurately Big Mike scared about the damage to his car the hedge has caused....Also Big Mike reminded of the downsides of owning a car you actually care about and beginning to regret getting something nice.

like i said, the sad thing is i love these sorts of roads......... but only in an old banger.

I didnt buy a model S for precisely these sorts of roads, however the I Pace isnt that much narrower to be honest.

I just had a dig in the settings.... whilst avoid dirt roads was checked.... there is another option - avoid roads unsuitable for caravans and large trailers.

I have checked that option. Hopefully this will sort me out. i am gutted, the car was pristine - impressive for a 2.5 year old car with 42k on the clock, but now has at least 2 to the primer marks on it, as well as some lighter marks which i hope to polish out.
 
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Waze shows a bottleneck section on that devils road, and if you drop destination at east , departure on left, will route you round the bottleneck
... complain to JLR, perhaps it thinks you have an invulnerable range rover, or conversely waze is a wimp

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Waze shows a bottleneck section on that devils road, and if you drop destination at east , departure on left, will route you round the bottleneck
... complain to JLR, perhaps it thinks you have an invulnerable range rover, or conversely waze is a wimp

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thanks for that... good to know some maps have this info on. i have found an avoid roads unsuitable for caravans so i have checked that in the hope its more strict than avoid unpaved roads.

but if it happens again i will look to ignore the car satnav and try this alternate. damn shame tho as a 70k car (when new i paid no where near that) you would think would have actual intelligent navigation.
 
To be fair it would have to be pretty intelligent to know the rate of growth of the brambles!

Unfortunately these things happen and until you have experienced first hand why to avoid a certain road you don't know to steer clear of the sat nav's recommendation.

One of my routes to work is very narrow. If the traffic is bad Google maps will sometimes try and send me that way but I know to take a junction earlier and a slightly longer route is better due to single track roads and the inevitable car coming in the opposite direction.

I do love having a company car for this very circumstance though. I do try and look after it but if it gets a scrape, then it gets a scrape. If / when I run my own car again it is going to be a nice spec run of the mill machine which will wear its war wounds with pride :p
 
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If you were genuinely worried about your car why didn't you turn back at the first sign of it looking iffy and find another route.

It's like those people that drive across fords, rather than finding another route they take a chance and looking at some YouTube videos a lot seem to not fare well with it.
 
but if it happens again i will look to ignore the car satnav and try this alternate. damn shame tho as a 70k car (when new i paid no where near that) you would think would have actual intelligent navigation.
that said - just checked a local road in waze which I know from experience has a mirror exchange scheme (RIP) and effectively single carriage way (in the dark for sure) but it would route me there,
and another one which has a 6'6 sign , waze doesn't seem to know about that sign
 
If you were genuinely worried about your car why didn't you turn back at the first sign of it looking iffy and find another route.

It's like those people that drive across fords, rather than finding another route they take a chance and looking at some YouTube videos a lot seem to not fare well with it.
because it was one of those things that got steadily worse. by the time it was as bad as it got i would have had to reverse over half a mile, what was technically challenging going forward would have been worse going backwards one of the bends specifically with a bank on one side would have been dicey esp if a car came behind me (I did consider it however but my lad was already really scared due to all the alarms going off in the car).......

as as for the name giving it away..... the name is on google, its not on the road - or i didnt see it (not that i would have twigged)
I used to live near gallowsclough lane but not once did i see anyone hanging from a tree ;)
 
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thanks for that... good to know some maps have this info on. i have found an avoid roads unsuitable for caravans so i have checked that in the hope its more strict than avoid unpaved roads.

but if it happens again i will look to ignore the car satnav and try this alternate. damn shame tho as a 70k car (when new i paid no where near that) you would think would have actual intelligent navigation.

Wait you were using the built in sat nav? I thought everyone these days used either Google maps or *shudders* Apple maps. I'm not sure I'd ever use a car manufacturer for mapping software. Let them focus on the car, and then trust a company that actually specialises in mapping software.
 
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