Dolph using a fallacy. How ironic. I don't defend poor care I challenge it. But I challenge it with a perspective of actually not coming from one ideology. I don't willfully castigate a whole organisation and blame it for the inevitable failures. See that post before you entered - that's one that is saying to a NHS staff member that maybe the NHS is at fault partly for a problem. Doesn't quite fit with your assessment there.
We differ in whether we believe the problems with the NHS are because of or in spite of the structure of the service. I believe all the evidence points to the former, you the latter, and neither of us are willing to shift from that.
You see practitioners do challenge bad care. There's case in the news today about that very thing. Assessment by experienced and excellent practitioners on failure.
And by the way Dolph - the man with a degree in Chemistry who could actually go in there an make a difference about poor care. What have you personally done to improve care if it is so woefully poor - bar moan that is? If not the fair enough no-one expects you to but if you truly believe in the need for progress people may just think you are a hypocritical bystander.
I would be more than happy to lend my expertise to the nhs if I thought it would do any good. Unfortunately the transformation to a truly patient care centered organisation would meet with massive resistance from the vested interests within it (see the bma and various royal colleges for examples), as well as massive negative coverage and attacks from people arguing on ideology rather thab evidence, and as such is very unlikely to happen. Coming from a role in the private sector where I am listened to would be a big shock I think unless there was a huge step change in both the organisation itself and the sacred cow status. Experience of expressing interest in a similar role with the local police and crime commissioner also suggest the public sector is not as family friendly in terms of flexibility as my current employer.
If you were to not invest time in your daughter, to not buy the things she needs to progress, to constantly criticise every failure without establishing what actually failed, to renege on your promises, to ignore the failures elsewhere and attributing all the blame on her, to falsely compare her against supposed peers, and to switch the subjects she is studying (when older) every 3 months - do you think she would come out well adjusted and motivated and reach the potential she was able to.
Almost certainly not, but that is why I don't let politics interfere with my daughters upbringing. if she was the responsibility of the state, they would be unable to prevent it.
Yes, the NHS is failing in many ways - I've never denied it - but unlike you I can see the reasons why it is failing, the failures in other systems, and actually tried to do something about it.
Just because we disagree on the cause of and solution to the problem doesnt mean I haven't done my research. Nor does it mean we don't actually want the same thing.