Save the NHS!
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Interesting comment, because it seems to me that in amongst the pages of debate in here about junior doctors, we have completely lost track of what this whole debate was about.
Jeremy Hunt said he wanted a true 7 day NHS. Anybody who has been in a hospital on a weekend knows that Hospitals do not run on Saturday and Sunday as they do during the week. If you're not sent home by Friday afternoon, you are there until Monday at least.
For some reason, the focus of the debate on the 7 day NHS was put on junior doctors, one of the teams who are already out in force keeping the wards running on a weekend. Go onto a ward at a weekend and you'll be guaranteed to find plenty of two groups of people, Nursing staff (RGNs and HCAs) and Junior Doctors. Junior doctors aren't the problem.
Why don't we have a 7 day NHS ? well thats because of all the people that either don't work on weekends at all or operate barely skeleton staff. People such as :
Physiotherapists
Patient Transport Services
Hospital Pharmacy Staff
Senior Doctors
etc...
Everybody needs to work 7 days a week in full capacity to give us a 7 day NHS. But for some reason the entire debate has turned to the pay of junior doctors, one of the groups of people already working long hours and weekends .....
I work for the NHS and it's funny as I also work permanent weekends and the place is like a ghost town and as Fr0dders has said loads of people are off and no clinics are open so the back log is getting bigger week by week.Something needs to be done and how it is sorted out is beyond me.
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You need more staff if you want 7 day clinics not simply shifting clinics from week to weekend and thinning out weekday staff levels.
No where else in Europe does it and we can't afford it.
And the contract does not provide this.
Correct
but why is nobody talking about the contracts of Patient Transport Services, the pharmacy staff, the physios, the blood clinic staff etc.. and why is this all about Junior Doctors ?
We're spending months solving the wrong problem !!!
I guess that debate is to come when Hunt changes their contracts to marry up with this one.
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So the junior doctor thing -
In conclusion Jeremy Hunt is a dick about the junior doctors and based his 'evidence' on false information that warned if he acted on it would mislead people.... Stunning government we have. Makes me proud. To think I voted for these idiots to stop labour or UKIP getting in....
In conclusion Jeremy Hunt is a dick about the junior doctors and based his 'evidence' on false information that warned if he acted on it would mislead people.... Stunning government we have. Makes me proud. To think I voted for these idiots to stop labour or UKIP getting in....
So what's the state of play now then?
The new contract is being imposed upon them anyway I believe? But they are still going to have further strikes.....how does that work, there's nothing further to negotiate, so now it's just pointlessly affecting patients
The new contract is being imposed upon them anyway I believe? But they are still going to have further strikes.....how does that work, there's nothing further to negotiate, so now it's just pointlessly affecting patients
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They will force this as step one.
Then use it to steamroller other groups, break the back, and slam dunk the rest.
Gives him the political sound byte, but without more staff, no more work will actually be completed.
It'll just be done on different days.
Then use it to steamroller other groups, break the back, and slam dunk the rest.
Gives him the political sound byte, but without more staff, no more work will actually be completed.
It'll just be done on different days.
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Sounds a bit like the teacher situation at the moment too?
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This sums up what we're up against:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nL_1OV9l4jI
Utter incompetence crammed into 6 mins.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nL_1OV9l4jI
Utter incompetence crammed into 6 mins.
Not sure about that shaky-camera effect, but good video otherwise.
This is an email sent to doctors in Basildon hospital. I'm sure it'll make its way on to the press soon enough.
13 doctors now rota'd to cover the work of 22. Last minute cover now hampered by low locum rates that no one is willing to do. The beginning. ...
EDIT with regards to source it's from a public juniors doctors forum that anyone on here can join. The email is covered for anonymity however the person who posted this collecting details from individuals who have verified this to forward on to health journals/press.
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Well when you consider net migration is circa 300,000 every year - the size of a small city outside of London is it any wonder why services such as the NHS, schools, police forces etc etc are under strain?
The NHS is unstainable in its current format
The NHS is unstainable in its current format
It would be a strain if you couldn't find any doctors, nurses, teachers etc from that annual 300k coming in
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You're probably more likely to find them going out currently.
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