Save the NHS!

So RIP the NHS then :( I don't believe that Labour will be able to undo the damage done when they next take power in 2015.

Aneurin Bevan said:
(The NHS) will survive as long as there are folk left with the faith to fight for it
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I guess in the age of selfishness and apathy it was inevitable - but hey another series of the X Factor will be starting soon.
 
Uther said:
How is this a good thing when it seems most health professionals are against it. :(
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To be fair, it's a very good thing if you're a major shareholder in Circle, Spire or any of the big US healthcare providers. Just crap for everyone else :(

Edit: Forgot about the insurance companies who will be massive winners as well. Mark my words, by 2020 the NHS will be so bad that private medical insurance won't be the luxury that it is now, it'll be a necessity. And don't be thinking that the premiums will be as low as they are either.
 
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scorza said:
To be fair, it's a very good thing if you're a major shareholder in Circle, Spire or any of the big US healthcare providers. Just crap for everyone else :(

Edit: Forgot about the insurance companies who will be massive winners as well. Mark my words, by 2020 the NHS will be so bad that private medical insurance won't be the luxury that it is now, it'll be a necessity. And don't be thinking that the premiums will be as low as they are either.
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Nigel Lawson at the weekend said that the new intake of Tory MP's wanted people to pay every time they visit a doctor. The poor would get a system like the American system. This shows the way the Tory party are thinking and the direction they want to go. All else is spin.
 
Its nothing like the American system and never will be.

Gee so much scaremongering and Bs in this thread.
It's closer to the rest of EU and the pay stem is like France where you make a ver minor contribution every time you visit GP.

It's far from dead, it's still the NHS and will continue to be state funded after the act.
 
do_ron_ron said:
Nigel Lawson at the weekend said that the new intake of Tory MP's wanted people to pay every time they visit a doctor. The poor would get a system like the American system. This shows the way the Tory party are thinking and the direction they want to go. All else is spin.
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Exactly every Tory voter should have blood on their hands, hopefully the public wake up and kick off when they can't get the medical care they need thanks to the condems, time to show the fat cat MPs who really hold power!
 
Investment tip

Primary Care Trusts (PCTs) and Strategic Health Authorities (SHAs) are due to disappear in April 2013. They are being replaced by (allegedly GP run) Clinical Commissioning Groups (CCGs).

The staff working in PCTs and SHAs know that they will be made redundant soon. GPs depend on PCTs for a great deal of their administration. I suspect that they are going to have to put up with twelve months of unanswered phones and unreturned calls. Still, never mind, they will have time to focus on getting to grips with administering their Practices - the sick will just have to wait.


Meanwhile, you probably will not want to know about "Procedures of limited clinical effectiveness". This is a cunning ploy to deny treatment to patients. If a General Practitioner believes that a patient suffers from some condition but hasn't got the experience or knowledge reliably to diagnose and effectively to treat it, they will understandably refer the patient to a specialist. The specialist will examine the patient and advise the GP appropriately. It is then the GP's responsibility to justify the relevant treatment - NOT as you might expect, the specialist's. If the GP is unable to justify treatment, it will not be forthcoming.

In the same vein, keep an eye out for privately run "Referral facilitation services" which have been set up to stop GPs referring patients to specialists.


Investment tip - buy shares in Care UK, Spire, Circle, Humana, United Health or any number of "for-profit" and dead willing medical services providers - they are going to make an absolute killing!


ps - John Nash, a hedge fund tycoon and the ex-chairman of Care UK, gave £21,000 to fund Andrew Lansley’s personal office in November 2009. He and his wife are alleged to have given more that £200,000 to the Tories over the past few years. Baron Dolar Popat of the charmingly named Truth, Love and Compassion Group is alleged to have donated a similar amount. I am quite sure that there is no question of any anticipated quid pro quo ;)
 
A draft transitional risk register, apparently from Sept 2010 has been leaked: http://origin.library.constantconta...-Register-NC-15-Oct-10-Dept-Bd-Version-v1.pdf

A lot of red, but you'd expect that at the start of project of this scale. We really need to see how the mitigation actions have progressed between 2010 and when the bill passed last week. I'm not sure for example how much work has been done on overall cost envelopes to make sure that use of private sector organisations doesn't drive costs up.
 
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