SB-E pricing?

Cleeecooo · 9 Nov 2011 at 17:29

Let me just say - i'm a CPU and mobo n00b!!!

I was having a look at the SBE info that I can find. Saw something on tom's hardware about it being roughly £700 :eek:

From what i've heard, X79 is supposed to replace X58 so Iwas thinking mobo and CPU would cost around £400-500?

Obviously if the CPU alone costs £700, that's out of the question.

My main question is, will there be a 6 core SB-E for £250ish with mobo's (like those MSI's in the competition) for £200?

Thanks

Broken Hope · 9 Nov 2011 at 17:43

I doubt every much that SB-E will be anywhere near that affordable, it's going to be expensive and not really add anything over a normal Sandy Bridge setup, since Ivy Bridge is out next year and will be even better it doesn't seem worth it at all.

Cleeecooo · 9 Nov 2011 at 17:51

Will ivy be 6 core and quad channel memory?

mmj_uk · 9 Nov 2011 at 17:58

Cleeecooo said:
Will ivy be 6 core and quad channel memory?

Ivy Bridge will be on both platforms, it is just the 22nm die shrunk chips.

As far as I know there will be a quad core SB-E but it will be 'partially locked' whatever that means.

Cleeecooo said:
My main question is, will there be a 6 core SB-E for £250ish with mobo's (like those MSI's in the competition) for £200?

The cheapest 6 core will be about £450 I think.

Cleeecooo · 9 Nov 2011 at 18:01

mmj_uk said:
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is that with ivy?
I saw that with the SB-E

EDIT: saw yours

what about quad channel memory?

mmj_uk · 9 Nov 2011 at 18:02

Yeah done some ninja editing.

Quad channel will be supported by SB-E.

Cleeecooo · 9 Nov 2011 at 18:03

so not by ivy?

So SB-E definitely wont be worth it?
What about ivy?

mmj_uk · 9 Nov 2011 at 18:05

A lot of people are confusing SB-E with Ivy Bridge.

SB-E is just the new enthusiast platform successor to LGA1366.

Ivy Bridge will be a 22nm refresh of Sandy Bridge CPU's on both platforms.

mmj_uk · 9 Nov 2011 at 18:08

Cleeecooo said:
So SB-E definitely wont be worth it?

IMO it depends how much the quad core overclocks which is said to have 'limited unlocking'.

The SB-E platform will be ace but if you can't afford a hex core and the quad core only clocks to 4.5ghz then you're probably better off with LGA1155.

Cleeecooo · 9 Nov 2011 at 18:13

mmj_uk said:
A lot of people are confusing SB-E with Ivy Bridge.

SB-E is just the new enthusiast platform successor to LGA1366.

Ivy Bridge will be a 22nm refresh of Sandy Bridge CPU's on both platforms.

Main reason I want SB-E is because of quad channel memory

mmj_uk said:
IMO it depends how much the quad core overclocks which is said to have 'limited unlocking'.

The SB-E platform will be ace but if you can't afford a hex core and the quad core only clocks to 4.5ghz then you're probably better off with LGA1155.

So what exactly is the difference between ivy and SB-e? is it just that SBE will have quad channel memory?

I NEED a CPU upgrade and i have a gen3 mobo so ivy will be ceaper, bu I play a lot of FSX and a 6 core would be nice

ng93 · 9 Nov 2011 at 18:21

3960X - £850.79

3930K - £477.59

http://*****.net/tech/news/cpu/32493-intel-core-i7-3960x-i7-3930k-appear-uk-retail/

ng93 · 9 Nov 2011 at 18:26

Cleeecooo said:
So what exactly is the difference between ivy and SB-e? is it just that SBE will have quad channel memory?

I've probably forgotten something but basically:

IB - 1155, quad core, dual channel ram, better ipc than sandy bridge (10% guestimate), may overclock better to, about the same price as SB maybe a tad more expensive depending on Bulldozer B3 and Trinity performance

SBE - 2011, hex core, quad channel ram, ipc and overclocking same/very similar to SB, properly ****ing expensive

Cleeecooo · 9 Nov 2011 at 18:27

ng93 said:
SBE - 2011, hex core, quad channel ram, ipc and overclocking same/very similar to SB, properly ****ing expensive

I really really want quad channel RAM

So deffo no chance of a £250-300 hex core from intel?

ng93 · 9 Nov 2011 at 18:29

Cleeecooo said:
I really really want quad channel RAM

So deffo no chance of a £250-300 hex core from intel?

Nope, there will be a quad core SBE with quad channel ram for about that price, but it'll have a partially locked multiplier so limited overclocks, and as per the link i posted earlier may not be out until Q1 2012

Cleeecooo · 9 Nov 2011 at 18:31

link doesn't work

saw the quad core and it doesn't really appeal to me

Are the new AMD's going to come out with the intels?

ng93 · 9 Nov 2011 at 18:35

Cleeecooo said:
link doesn't work

saw the quad core and it doesn't really appeal to me

Are the new AMD's going to come out with the intels?

link is to hexus, just replace the stars with that and your golden

New AMDs are coming in Q1 IIRC, but TBH if your thinking about hex SBE then I doubt new AMDs will be fast enough.

Cleeecooo · 9 Nov 2011 at 18:38

ng93 said:
link is to hexus, just replace the stars with that and your golden

New AMDs are coming in Q1 IIRC, but TBH if your thinking about hex SBE then I doubt new AMDs will be fast enough.

Tried hex us but still doesn't work

Well basically, my ONLY criteria is that it pwns he 2600K
Currently have the 2500k. Do you think the prices will drop about half way through the year?
I like the idea of quad channel as it gives me a nice exceuse to get another RAM block

ng93 · 9 Nov 2011 at 18:47

Cleeecooo said:
Tried hex us but still doesn't work

Well basically, my ONLY criteria is that it pwns he 2600K
Currently have the 2500k. Do you think the prices will drop about half way through the year?
I like the idea of quad channel as it gives me a nice exceuse to get another RAM block

Thats weird, it works for me :confused:

You could find it on their homepage "Intel Core i7-3960X and i7-3930K appear at UK retail", although tbh theres nothing important in the article that i havent posted on here

B3 Bulldozer may pawn a 2600k depending on how software has evolved to support the architecture, or in other words I have no idea how it will perform in FSX

As for prices, i'd imagine 2600k price will drop with ivy bridges release as itll presumably be eol'ed. Doubt SBE price will change as itll still be pawning everything in multithreaded stuff.

Cleeecooo · 9 Nov 2011 at 18:50

The only reason it needs to beat the 2600K is because my friend has one :mad:

What exactly is multithreading and hyperthreading (i told you i was a noob!)

ng93 · 9 Nov 2011 at 18:56

Cleeecooo said:
The only reason it needs to beat the 2600K is because my friend has one

What exactly is multithreading and hyperthreading (i told you i was a noob!)

Multithreading is the ability of software to use multiple cores, so you dont end up with 3 idle cores and 1 at 100% load. So SBE>IB in multithreaded stuff thanks to more cores, IB>SBE in single threaded stuff thats to higher IPC.

Hyperthreading is the ability of i7s to run 2 threads on a single core at the same time. It can get you a max of about 25% better performance in software that supports both multithreading and hyperthreading.

Spending many £100s on a new system to one up your friend sounds like a very good idea

Edit: should probably add that the above is a very simplistic explanation, if you want more detail google is your friend