SB-E pricing?

[Cleeecooo]

Let me just say - i'm a CPU and mobo n00b!!!

I was having a look at the SBE info that I can find. Saw something on tom's hardware about it being roughly £700

From what i've heard, X79 is supposed to replace X58 so Iwas thinking mobo and CPU would cost around £400-500?

Obviously if the CPU alone costs £700, that's out of the question.

My main question is, will there be a 6 core SB-E for £250ish with mobo's (like those MSI's in the competition) for £200?

Thanks

 

[Cleeecooo]

Will ivy be 6 core and quad channel memory?

 

[Cleeecooo]

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is that with ivy?
I saw that with the SB-E

EDIT: saw yours

what about quad channel memory?

 

[Cleeecooo]

so not by ivy?

So SB-E definitely wont be worth it?
What about ivy?

 

[Cleeecooo]

A lot of people are confusing SB-E with Ivy Bridge.

SB-E is just the new enthusiast platform successor to LGA1366.

Ivy Bridge will be a 22nm refresh of Sandy Bridge CPU's on both platforms.

Main reason I want SB-E is because of quad channel memory

IMO it depends how much the quad core overclocks which is said to have 'limited unlocking'.

The SB-E platform will be ace but if you can't afford a hex core and the quad core only clocks to 4.5ghz then you're probably better off with LGA1155.

So what exactly is the difference between ivy and SB-e? is it just that SBE will have quad channel memory?

I NEED a CPU upgrade and i have a gen3 mobo so ivy will be ceaper, bu I play a lot of FSX and a 6 core would be nice

 

[Cleeecooo]

SBE - 2011, hex core, quad channel ram, ipc and overclocking same/very similar to SB, properly ****ing expensive

I really really want quad channel RAM

So deffo no chance of a £250-300 hex core from intel?

 

[Cleeecooo]

link doesn't work

saw the quad core and it doesn't really appeal to me

Are the new AMD's going to come out with the intels?

 

[Cleeecooo]

link is to hexus, just replace the stars with that and your golden

New AMDs are coming in Q1 IIRC, but TBH if your thinking about hex SBE then I doubt new AMDs will be fast enough.

Tried hex us but still doesn't work

Well basically, my ONLY criteria is that it pwns he 2600K
Currently have the 2500k. Do you think the prices will drop about half way through the year?
I like the idea of quad channel as it gives me a nice exceuse to get another RAM block

 

[Cleeecooo]

The only reason it needs to beat the 2600K is because my friend has one

What exactly is multithreading and hyperthreading (i told you i was a noob!)

 

[Cleeecooo]

Multithreading is the ability of software to use multiple cores, so you dont end up with 3 idle cores and 1 at 100% load. So SBE>IB in multithreaded stuff thanks to more cores, IB>SBE in single threaded stuff thats to higher IPC.

Hyperthreading is the ability of i7s to run 2 threads on a single core at the same time. It can get you a max of about 25% better performance in software that supports both multithreading and hyperthreading.

Spending many £100s on a new system to one up your friend sounds like a very good idea

Thanks

Don't care about spending money to 1 up him

Already spent £200 on RAM for 16GB watercooled stuff

Just need a better SSD, CPU and maybe mobo

would ivy i7's then support the hyperthreading?

 

[Cleeecooo]

This allows a hyper-threading processor to appear as two "logical" processors to the host operating system, allowing the operating system to schedule two threads or processes simultaneously.

Doesn't that mean that it wil;l be like having 8 cores on a quad core processor?

 

[Cleeecooo]

Fair play for spending so much, itll be one hell of a system which ever route you go down.

thanks

Just need some EVGA GTX 680's

 

[Cleeecooo]

you don't need a new cpu or quad channel memory cleeecooo

wkingsnorth has a 2600k. Therefore i need something better

two seperate areas for RAM means two RAM waterblocks.
Two RAM waterblocks will look epic

Also, I alreeady have 4 modules so presumeably i can already use quad channel if my mobo supported it

 

[Cleeecooo]

Hyper threading only gets you a max of ~25% performance over a single core, where as another core would get you a max of ~100% perfomance over a single core. In rare circumstances hyperthreading can also decrease performance, where as a separate core won't. Other than that they are pretty much the same in use, and most software which supports multithreading also supports hyperthreading, just dont expect a hyperthreaded quad core to be twice as fast as a non-hyperthreded quad core.

ah okay -thanks

is ivy destined to only give 10% more than SB?

 

[Cleeecooo]

2700k?

I soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo want the gigabyte x79-ud7 it's painful

even I can't justify a 2700k and that's saying something!

The UD7 boards aren't that good IMO

Short answer - yes

Long answer - http://www.anandtech.com/show/4830/intels-ivy-bridge-architecture-exposed/1

It says that there will be new mobo's out - i take it there will be no point me upgrading to one from my AsRock extreme4 gen3?

Ivy Bridge CPU's will probably overclock like beasts because they'll be 22nm.

didn't think of that

 

[Cleeecooo]

http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1711/gigabyte-x79-ud7a.jpg[IMG]

now do you know why? :p

and stop signing in and out of origin :p[/QUOTE]

I wanted the green one on sandy, but i really couldn't justify when the mobo I have has the same features apart from tri sli for nearly half the price!

Sorry about origin - some issues ATM :(

 

[Cleeecooo]

if I can afford it, then I'll get it

HYPOCRITE!!!!!

Correct

Thanks

Will there be any point at all getting the SBE?

 

[Cleeecooo]

how?

I'd explain, but then the marriage comments would start

If you need the extra multithreaded performance and have plenty of cash to burn then yh why not

gah!! decisions decisions!!

I think I may get the ib and some lovely EVGA 680's

if it means that you'll sell me your 2500k, then definitely go for it!

 

[Cleeecooo]

not really any point of PCIe 3.0 unless the next gen of gfx card can actually use it!

 

[Cleeecooo]

Ivy supports PCI-e 3 too

Not sure whether AMDs 7000 series will support PCI-e 3, considering that their 900 series chipsets don't. Am happy to be proven wrong though

doesn't matter even if they do!

It's not like they're actually going to be bottlenecked by pcie 2.0