Scared guy needs help !

lemonkettaz · 30 Sep 2006 at 15:24

I am in student accom...and my internet is connected by a network cable from the wall into my laptop,

but i want to be able to use the laptop on wireless in the lounge without being in my room using the net...

i have a netgear adsl router DG834GT,can i plug the network cable from the wall into one of the lan sockets on the router and then use my laptop wireless on the net?

lemonkettaz · 30 Sep 2006 at 15:39

is it i need a wireless access point?

bump...

Gaverick · 30 Sep 2006 at 16:11

Depending on the distance from your room to the lounge it should work, providing you do have a wireless adapter for your laptop too.

J.B · 30 Sep 2006 at 17:05

most adsl routers will work fine as an AP. you might need to adjust your tcp/ip settings to acsess the net through the uni system.

Would be really easy if your router has the function to go onto AP mode

lemonkettaz · 30 Sep 2006 at 18:00

i have no idea what to do...

i tried it but i didnt know what settings to change....

it obviously connects to the router...but the router isnt accessing the internet through the accomm LAN... i dont know how to make it do that

tolien · 30 Sep 2006 at 20:57

Switch off DHCP et al, then connect to one of the LAN ports. That should be it.

lemonkettaz · 1 Oct 2006 at 03:48

tolien said:
Switch off DHCP et al, then connect to one of the LAN ports. That should be it.

i had it so DHCP was off....still doesnt work.... :confused:

tolien · 1 Oct 2006 at 10:02

In what way?

M0KUJ1N · 1 Oct 2006 at 13:13

Id be careful with this, as plugging networking equipment such as hubs, switches and access points are usually against the t&c's of your accomodation- it certainly is at Edinburgh anyway.

lemonkettaz · 1 Oct 2006 at 13:26

tolien said:
In what way?

cant use the internet...?

tolien · 1 Oct 2006 at 13:37

lemonkettaz said:
cant use the internet...?

You get an error? Your machine doesn't get assigned an IP? Smoke comes out the back?

lemonkettaz · 1 Oct 2006 at 13:54

tolien said:
You get an error? Your machine doesn't get assigned an IP? Smoke comes out the back?

just doesnt load pages when you try and "surf".....

my wireless connects to the router...... the router has the lan connected to it from the wall to that itself...

but i can only surf the net if i plug the lan cable from the wall into the laptop...

kbc · 1 Oct 2006 at 14:02

lemonkettaz said:
just doesnt load pages when you try and "surf".....

Still doesn't clear the situation up.

Have you verified that your laptop is in fact communicating with your wireless router? You're basically just trying to use the wireless router as an access point by disabling the DHCP.

M0KUJ1N · 1 Oct 2006 at 15:00

I'd suspect that the router is only configured to route traffic externally via it's ADSL connection. To route via standard ethernet would require a dedicated access point or a ethernet-only router such as a WRT54G

Stellios · 1 Oct 2006 at 15:42

OT - lemonkettaz, you go to nothumbria uni dont you? Are you the guy that brings the laptop into the lectures?

tolien · 1 Oct 2006 at 20:20

As kbc says, you still haven't answered the question, so to repeat:

tolien said:
You get an error? Your machine doesn't get assigned an IP? Smoke comes out the back?

M0KUJ1N said:
I'd suspect that the router is only configured to route traffic externally via it's ADSL connection. To route via standard ethernet would require a dedicated access point or a ethernet-only router such as a WRT54G

No it wouldn't - you aren't routing anything, just bridging the wired LAN interface (that's connected to the RJ45 on the wall) to the wireless interface.
Nothing to do with ADSL or the WAN port or anything else.

lemonkettaz · 2 Oct 2006 at 00:53

tolien said:
No it wouldn't - you aren't routing anything, just bridging the wired LAN interface (that's connected to the RJ45 on the wall) to the wireless interface.
Nothing to do with ADSL or the WAN port or anything else.

so how do i do that?

i am doing nothing with IP addresses... or anything... so do i need to do something there?

Avalon · 2 Oct 2006 at 01:20

Northumbria - could have been Newcastle but I don't think it was - set up wireless links at the halls iirc and they weren't working at all well last I knew (site to site links were dropping). I'm pretty sure you are asking for grief with this though as it's more than likley a breach of T&C's as pointed out.

tolien · 2 Oct 2006 at 16:23

lemonkettaz said:
i am doing nothing with IP addresses... or anything... so do i need to do something there?

Connect RJ45 on the wall to LAN port on router. Connect machine either over wireless or another LAN port. Machine should get an IP the same as it did when it was connected directly.

The obvious first thing to do would be make sure your machine's connecting to the router properly, then check if it's even getting assigned an IP (ipconfig /all is your friend).

But if this is a breach of the T&Cs it's game over for this thread.

Wyvern971 · 2 Oct 2006 at 17:04

When I was in halls (many moons ago

) the connection to the wall socket was tied to the MAC address which we had to give when we signed up.

This would mean you probably need to force your Router to spoof it's MAC address (though I'm not sure how you're going to get it to work as I don't think your router will allow you to spoof the "inside" network connection)

You probably need to check with your uni people, but I seriously doubt you are allowed