Scrappage Continued

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ctly-driveable-vehicles-waiting-SCRAPPED.html

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Look at this collection of disgusting ropey old unsafe bangers which will now be crushed following the governments scheme to increase the Korean car export market.

It's a good job cars like those multiple Mk4 Volkswagen Golfs, Passats, previous shape Audi A6's, etc etc all fitted with the latest safety systems, will be permenantly destroyed and removed from our roads, which will doubtless be a safer place to be now they are gone.

I particularly love the support the scheme has given to our car industry - all those independant mechanics, used car sales centres and motor factors and car parts sales places will be very pleased these cars are now gone, replaced in the main by main dealer supplied foreign built cars covered by warranties.

Nice one Labour!

In the meantime, it's nice to know the old bangers NOT covered by scrappage - ie your typical *****-nail which fails every MOT and gets sold on to somebody even less capable of looking after it after a few months - are still on our nations roads, whilst the ones that DID qualify for the scheme - ie decent condition cars owned for a long period of time by owners wealthy enough to consider new cars - are gone.
 
So what? There only cars, who gives a hoot what the owner chooses to do with HIS/HER car.

So what if little old Nora is now in a brand new 2010 plate Kia, its there life.


My take on it.
 
Settleddown said:
So what? There only cars, who gives a hoot what the owner chooses to do with HIS/HER car.

So what if little old Nora is now in a brand new 2010 plate Kia, its there life.


My take on it.
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What Nora does is her choice.

It's the part of the legislation which forces the cars to be destroyed thats the issue. Why are they not being resold to other people to continue to use them, whose owners will continue to support the motor trade by taking them to be serviced at independant garages, get repairs done, buy parts? After all, recycling is green.

The scheme is a scam - all it has supported are multinational foreign owned motor manufacturers and the franchised dealer networks who support them. It has done more harm than good to the huge independent sector in this country - the people who really needed the support.
 
[TW]Fox;16303195 said:
What Nora does is her choice.

It's the part of the legislation which forces the cars to be destroyed thats the issue. Why are they not being resold to other people to continue to use them? After all, recycling is green.
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Quite.

Why they can't be looked at on a car-by-car basis and the decent ones pumped back into circulation is beyond me. There are a good number of cars in that photo which would be 100x better than some of the dross being driven around by the local ******.
 
Utterly pointless. So many decent enough cars. The environmental impact of making all these new cars, putting them on a ship and sailing 8000 miles with massive amounts of diesel burned...this govt is a joke.
 
It is indeed madness but at the same time, like said. Its peoples choice to scrap in these good cars to get discount on their new motor. I personally wouldnt but its pointless whinging about it lol
 
actually the resale of these cars is a valid point, i take back what i said, its a crap idea
 
Hedge said:
It is indeed madness but at the same time, like said. Its peoples choice to scrap in these good cars to get discount on their new motor. I personally wouldnt but its pointless whinging about it lol
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That isn't the argument. People can indeed do what they like, but which part of scrapping perfectly usable and sometimes GOOD cars is economical?
 
Hedge said:
It is indeed madness but at the same time, like said. Its peoples choice to scrap in these good cars to get discount on their new motor. I personally wouldnt but its pointless whinging about it lol
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The issue is not the car owners themselves. They are free to take advantage of whatever scheme they chose. The issue is the government implementing such a flawed scheme in the first place, and selling it to people based on lies.

Lets pick a car at random from that collection. There is a blue Mk4 Golf there. It's owner presumably paid for an MOT every year, paid to fix it when it went wrong (Which I doubt was that often), etc etc. Now they've traded it in for a brand new car, lets assume a new Golf. Suddenly all the money which that owner was putting into the independent sector - you know, full of small businesses - has gone. Gone where? Into the VW Franchised dealer network instead which, lets face it, probably wasn't going anywhere anyway. The blue Golf will be gone.

Why couldn't it simply be sold onto an independant trader, who could then sell it on to somebody else, propping up the used motor trade and then continuing to prop up the independant sector for repairs and maintenance? Instead the potential purchaser of that £2k Golf must now try his luck with whats left - ie the cars that didnt qualify for scrappage, ie with people who've not owned them long, etc etc..
 
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I agree with that, most cars put forward for the scrappage scheme are in much much better shape than a load of old heap on our roads, look at the American version don’t they put some sort of chemical in the engine and let it die?? A better scheme is needed like I don’t know transport the cars to a different less off county as a gift or sell them on? Such a shame to scrap some of the motors.
 
'Stalled: The vast array of cars, including BMWs and Peugeots, will eventually be stripped and crushed'

Haha I like the part 'including BMWs and Peugeots' :p

Silly scheme. How can any of the greenies that supported this scheme to get rid of the old 'oil guzzlers' justify this?
 
[TW]Fox;16303228 said:
The issue is not the car owners themselves. They are free to take advantage of whatever scheme they chose. The issue is the government implementing such a flawed scheme in the first place, and selling it to people based on lies.
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Thats the rub, the whole thing would be more palatable if it was being done for the reason stated, not for the obvious ulterior motive.
 
Felix said:
B) Some of those don't actually 10 years old. eg the Merc M Class, the Audi A6
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Both introduced in 1998. Such is the quality of some cars these days there are numerous cars on our road that neither look nor feel over 10 years old. The Audi A6 is one pretty good example of this sort of car.
 
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