Scrappage Continued

[TW]Fox · 5 Apr 2010 at 13:52

DiamondMark said:
No one forced him to scrap it, he chose to.

This isnt about the customer. The government force the motor trade to scrap the car. Thats the problem.

'Scrappage' should have been 'Tradeage'. Worked in exactly the same way but the cars should have gone to auction not to the scrapyard.

Settleddown · 5 Apr 2010 at 13:53

manic_man said:
Producing a single car uses a huge amount of resources both in the production line it takes and the materials that go into making it. Especially plastics.

If Nora had a perfectly serviceable and safe car putting out below government guideline levels of CO2, which is then sat in a car park to be partially recycled (takes energy) and then crushed (a good proportion of the materials will simply be cubed) and left to rust in a pile somewhere, this is a heinous waste of a perfectly usable vehicle.

How do you momentarily fix a broken economy? You inject cash into it, if it never gets fixed and all you do is keep injecting you get hyper-inflation and we're all using wheel barrows to take our cash for our loaves of bread...

The scrappage scheme will, in one or two cases, remove genuine bangers from the road and in those cases, fine. However in most cases its being used by people as an easy alternative to a bit of haggling. The ONLY winners are the car manufacturers. Which on some levels is a good thing.

But to say "who cares, it's their life" is very short-sighted. We live on a very crowded island on a relatively crowded planet, what one person does invariably will have a small but tangible impact on your life as well. If many people do it, the small impact becomes larger and more evident.

How is it short sighted? You are not one of those tree hugging eco the world is coming to an end due to global warming rubbish are you? You sound it.
What has crowding got to do with a government scrappage scheme? Do enlighten me it sounds like a very interesting debate.

ajstan · 5 Apr 2010 at 13:53

Felix said:
I drove a Hyundai i20 the other day, from the outside they seem ok but felt terrible to drive!

I thought these were supposed to be quite good?

I used to drvie my mum's hyundai getz which was never that bad.

[TW]Fox · 5 Apr 2010 at 13:55

Settleddown said:
How is it short sighted? You are not one of those tree hugging eco the world is coming to an end due to global warming rubbish are you? You sound it.

I beleive they are the ones who support the scheme, given how many references to reduced CO2 you'll find in government press releases regarding it.

Burned_Alive · 5 Apr 2010 at 13:58

Looks like someones had some fun shunting a few of them around the lot.

ardy89 · 5 Apr 2010 at 13:59

Felix said:
Ardy, while you are getting the bumper could you get me the golf mk4 alloys?

While we joke, why dont they just open up the compound to the public and let them take the parts from the cars, for free aswell! :confused:

Felix · 5 Apr 2010 at 14:00

Looks like someone has already had a go at them. The back windows of some of the cars are smashed.

DM · 5 Apr 2010 at 14:01

[TW]Fox;16303366 said:
This isnt about the customer. The government force the motor trade to scrap the car. Thats the problem.

'Scrappage' should have been 'Tradeage'. Worked in exactly the same way but the cars should have gone to auction not to the scrapyard.

My point was just that the the end user is not being robbed in this scheme, as the chap i was replying to thinks.

I agree with you on everything you have said in this thread.

Sukh · 5 Apr 2010 at 14:03

What the black car top right?

Also surely if they are trying to be green with getting old inefficient cars off the road, the volumes of CO2 when producing a car will far outweigh any savings made for 50 years or so of running a newer car.

Dano · 5 Apr 2010 at 14:03

Makes me sick

[TW]Fox · 5 Apr 2010 at 14:05

Sukh said:
What the black car top right?

E28 5 Series.

Also surely if they are trying to be green with getting old inefficient cars off the road, the volumes of CO2 when producing a car will far outweigh any savings made for 50 years or so of running a newer car.

All the government cares about is the UK fleet carbon footprint. Who cares if its made in somebody elses back yard?

-Ad- · 5 Apr 2010 at 14:05

Might pop up there after the gym and strip some bits to sell on

But honestly this is sad, plenty of these cars would be in pretty good nick and perfect for 90% of the population out there.

Worked up there after uni temping for a bit just driving returned lease cars around teh airfield for storage/servicing/washing. Was great fun but I see they have now branched out into the storage of the scrappage cars.

Useless fact, they tested concord there (2nd longest runway n the EU I believe) and the harriers were also tested there (massive holes with large grates in the ground where the mercs used to be parked).

*** OcUK roadtrip for Auto liberation *** ???

ajstan · 5 Apr 2010 at 14:05

Sukh said:
What the black car top right?

Also surely if they are trying to be green with getting old inefficient cars off the road, the volumes of CO2 when producing a car will far outweigh any savings made for 50 years or so of running a newer car.

Looks like a clio with no light clusters to me

edit: FAIL thought you meant the clio

Whats the very short white car behind the green vitara near front middle?

Rybo89 · 5 Apr 2010 at 14:06

What a waste!

As gay as it sounds, the government should give them to charity to sell on for cheap... Or somet like that.

[TW]Fox · 5 Apr 2010 at 14:07

Here is a challenge - can anyone spot a single bona fide, genuine, 100% banger in that photograph? You know, the sort of thing you'd see belching smoke down your local high street and really looking like its about 5 years past its death day?

L0rdMike · 5 Apr 2010 at 14:07

[TW]Fox;16303442 said:
Here is a challenge - can anyone spot a single bona fide, genuine, 100% banger in that photograph? You know, the sort of thing you'd see belching smoke down your local high street and really looking like its about 5 years past its death day?

The Rover?

ZG002 · 5 Apr 2010 at 14:09

Corsa top right 3rd in, There is a punto in there also that's old, Mk1 clio top left also, Even a London taxi in that lot.

Got to remember there will be a load more cars there! Daily mail will have chosen the frame which best shows their point, Ie with the newest cars in shot.

ps

I don't agree with them not selling these cars on!

Tute · 5 Apr 2010 at 14:12

Given the debt this country is in as well, it's shocking how we're so happy to waste the thousands of pounds that could be had selling these on.

Whoever came up with the idea needs to be put down, for their own sake.

Housey · 5 Apr 2010 at 14:17

These cars won't be scrapped, I bet there are several car retailers 'dissaperaring' them as we speak...

Coco · 5 Apr 2010 at 14:18

Felix said:
Ardy, while you are getting the bumper could you get me the golf mk4 alloys?

I'll call dibs on the second set you come across.

I can't believe theres a Puma amongst them, unless the owner had been using sand instead of oil its only the bushes which might be of cost to replace, shes never a scrapper, somebody save her!