Scum in the NHS

Considering the amount the NHS are spending on their new IT systems, I fail to see why they can't spend £30,000 on each 24hour ward & all their hospitals and care homes.

At least that way they can prevent any claims for mistakes or patient/nurse stealing (which will cost them millions) in the future.

Surely that way it would save them money - or am I just being stupid, considering that nurses never make mistakes or steal, or patients never steal from anyone else......:rolleyes:

If it's there on video - what would they say to the facts ? It's a service we are all paying a hell of a lot of money for, we should at least know whats happening in it.
 
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it may be lookign slightly further afield

the same hapopened when my Gran died, turned out to be a member of staff at her bank
 
divosuk said:
Considering the amount the NHS are spending on their new IT systems, I fail to see why they can't spend £30,000 on each 24hour ward & all their hospitals and care homes.

At least that way they can prevent any claims for mistakes or patient/nurse stealing (which will cost them millions) in the future.

Surely that way it would save them money - or am I just being stupid, considering that nurses never make mistakes or steal, or patients never steal from anyone else......:rolleyes:

If it's there on video - what would they say to the facts ? It's a service we are all paying a hell of a lot of money for, we should at least know whats happening in it.
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Are you suggesting that there should be security cameras in patients' rooms! Don't you think there will be a majority of people who wouldn't be happy with that

Also, the NHS is not something we pay a 'hell of a lot of money for' in comparison to most other countries. NHS spending is less than healthcare spending in most EU countries, and roughly equivalent to governmental spending in the US even!
 
dmpoole said:
3 - The cops have determined that it must be a member of staff.
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Fair enough then if that is the case, but you didn't mention this in your previous posts, so you can surely appreciate people getting up in arms about your thread title. Also, and far be it for me to question the police, but I don't see how they could determine that it must be a member of staff - patients and staff are always being warned about security, as there is very little that can be done to prevent anyone from wandering in off the street, straight onto a ward and steal from it.
 
Tefal said:
never said all just there's some scum in the NHS, other wise the title would be the NHS are scum surely?
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Thankfully somebody can read.

There is scum in the NHS who has primed my mates Mum before she died and made off with £400.
I shouldn't have posted when most of you were reading through beer goggles.
 
In the last hospital I worked in on one of the wards one of the patients was 'on her way out' and so her family were called so they could be by her side and the curtains were drawn around the bed. When her family arrived they went into the cubicle to find a heroin addict from another bed on the ward removing the gold necklace from the dying ladies neck!!
Unfortunately we used to see similar things quite often - you would see inpatient IVDU's (intravenous drug users) 'befriending' some of the elderly patients on the same wards (sitting next to their beds and talking to them on a regular basis), and then strangely enough some of the elderly patients belongings would go missing.
SCUM!
 
It's a good general rule that a proportion of people are scum (I'd say about 98%, but that may just be me). It therefore follows that the more people you put in close formation, the more likely it is that someone will nick something. This becomes even more true in places where the general public have fairly free access. There are actually thieves who specialise in robbing hospitals, just as there are others who specialise in office blocks. Some even wear white coats to blend in, just as the ones who do over offices wear suits.

Finally, just because something goes missing in a hospital, doesn't mean it was a staff member who took it, or for that matter, that it wasn't.


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Tefal said:
never said all just there's some scum in the NHS, other wise the title would be the NHS are scum surely?
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I work for the NHS.

There are also some very hard working, dedicated individuals who give there life to the service and get very little reward.
 
Meridian said:
There are actually thieves who specialise in robbing hospitals,

Finally, just because something goes missing in a hospital, doesn't mean it was a staff member who took it, or for that matter, that it wasn't.
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EXACTLY and thats why I wrote 'Scum in the NHS'.
 
dmpoole said:
EXACTLY and thats why I wrote 'Scum in the NHS'.
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Then I'm afraid it was an unfortunate title, because most people will read it as implying that you are only having a go at the staff. They are, after all, what most people would think of as "in" the NHS, as opposed to just visiting it. If you were to (for example) refer to "the people in PCWorld" everyone would again assume that you meant the staff.


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Meridian said:
Then I'm afraid it was an unfortunate title, because most people will read it as implying that you are only having a go at the staff. They are, after all, what most people would think of as "in" the NHS, as opposed to just visiting it. If you were to (for example) refer to "the people in PCWorld" everyone would again assume that you meant the staff.


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Not really - the title was Scum in the NHS
which was backed up by the very first line in my original post : 'Of course there are scum everywhere but an interesting little story my mate has just rang me about'
 
siloleth said:
I work for the NHS.

There are also some very hard working, dedicated individuals who give there life to the service and get very little reward.
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not entirely sure what the point of this post was:confused:

I was saying that there is probably (almost certainly tbh) some people who you would consider scum in the nhs (as there would be in any sample so large), however there are also people that aren't (probably the majority).

You just seam to be deliberately getting the wrong end of the stick in insinuating that everyone, is saying that all the NHS are grave robbing gits.
 
Meridian said:
Finally, just because something goes missing in a hospital, doesn't mean it was a staff member who took it, or for that matter, that it wasn't.


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although considering the room was private, it's would be the most likely solution, no matter how much you wish it wasn't.
 
Tefal said:
although considering the room was private, it's would be the most likely solution, no matter how much you wish it wasn't.
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I'm struggling to work out how the room being private would stop a thief who didn't work there? Do they lock the doors to the private rooms? My understanding is that as well as the card, the thief got the PIN. Either they talked to the lady concerned (good old Social Engineering) or they took an entire bag with it written down somewhere. Equally easy with a bit of social engineering if you have a white coat on. Or a fake photo ID. The status of the room does not prove it was an employee any more than it eliminates the possibility.


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siloleth said:
No just the OP.
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Are you totally incapable of reading a post?
Lets start again for those with an IQ of 1.

Thread title : Scum In The NHS

This DOES NOT say that staff members are the scum, only that scum are walking around inside the NHS.

First line of OP - Of course there are scum everywhere

I can't explain that any better than the title although saying EVERYWHERE is generic and it could be that you are sitting in the house with your wife & kids who aren't scum, so I apologise.

Please don't insinuate that I'm on about staff members because that would mean that some of my family and friends are scum.

Now go and get some reading lessons.
 
Meridian said:
I'm struggling to work out how the room being private would stop a thief who didn't work there? etc
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I'm just passing a story on and the cops reckon its a staff member.
The bag wasn't taken and only her Mastercard was missing from her purse.
The scum had obviously spoken to her while she was in her dying state and she gave up the number.
 
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