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todesign

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Hi all been along time since i been on here.

My second build!! Want something a bit more adventurous lol this time.

My first build over 6 years ago I had one of them giant nvidia edition 830 stacker cases. It was a monster but i loved it. This time i want to dip my toe in water cooling. :eek:

This is what i've pulled together so far. Looking at spending about £1800 hopefully under 1800 ( if i get some good deals and keep my eyes open. )

By the way i'm looking at building a gaming 1440p rig and a bit future proof as well (4-5 years)

here goes :

mastercase 5 pro £134 or maker £179
Asus Strix x99 £260
corsair 16gb 4x4gb red vengeance lax ddr4 3200mhz £101
ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 ROG STRIX GAMING OC 8GB GDDR5 £439
Hydro Series™ H100i v2 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler £91
6850k £540
240GB Solid State Drive £50
Seagate SSHD 1TB Hybrid £62
Corsair CX Series CX750M ATX Power Supply £82
TP-Link WDN4800 450Mbps PCIe Adapter £24

£1828

I was only planning on getting a normal 1070 but the oc one is only slightly more. ( hopefully this comes down a bit.) When will prices drop?? I read a lot on the net about how we all seem to be waiting on the AMD 490x to drop to see if it upsets any of the nvidia stuff. Always been a really big fan of asus stuff don't know why think its because its normally so quiet as i owned a 770 on my first rig.

Is this 100i cpu cooler overkill for the processor? i know they do smaller ones for slightly less money but i was more thinking where i'm going to put it in my case as i didn't want it blocking out the motherboard if i went on the rear fan slot. As this case comes with room in the top for it :)

Also do i really need a normal hard drive in there? I'm only planning on gaming I've got a 2tb western digital book which i use to back my mac up and i might partition it so its half for mac and half for pc if you can do that :confused:

I would love a water cooled GPU but i'm not into all this SLI and more business :p one is more than enough for any game... i hope. :D

I was going to get another company to build it but i worked out if i do it, i can get a better case, better cpu and better gpu so its kinda pointless.:p:p

what do you think?:D
 
Hi

A few things I would change.

I have a preference for Gigabyte, but swap back to Asus GPU/Board if you prefer that.

Swapped out the psu for something that isn't terrible :)

Hybrid hard drives are not worth the cash. I would stick with a regular HDD/SSD setup.

No need for the 6850K if you only plan on running a single gpu. So stick with the i7 5820K or i7 6800K if you want the newer Broadwell-E chip.

The Corsair H105 has a thicker rad so it should be a bit better than the H100i. The H105 rad is 38mm thick so it should fit fine (Coolermaster spec says a max of 40mm for the rad)

Go with the cheaper 3000MHz Corsair ram. I don't think X99 takes advantage of faster ram like Skylake (I might be wrong) so anything 2400MHz or above would do fine.

I would also look at powerline adapters rather than a wifi adapter. It should give you faster speeds for browsing/online gaming etc.


My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £1,577.75
(includes shipping: £0.00)
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I can't see the Pascal architecture holding up well much past DX11. Maybe go with one of the discounted Fury cards.

What system do you currently have? A six year rig is probably still offering top end performance.
 
jigger said:
I can't see the Pascal architecture holding up well much past DX11. Maybe go with one of the discounted Fury cards.

What system do you currently have? A six year rig is probably still offering top end performance.
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Haha the 6 year old rig went last year lol, I can't even remember what i had lol
I'm sure it was a quad core 3000 series i think. now were on 6000 series i assumed it was a massive jump?

It was an x79 board.

I thought these GPU's were the latest thing out? you don't think they'll handle dx12?

I did look at a Fury X but it seemed more expensive and produced less performance basing it on game benchmarks.
But there's only really a few games out that actually use dx12 isn't there? so ...:confused:
 
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lee32uk said:
Hi

A few things I would change.

I have a preference for Gigabyte, but swap back to Asus GPU/Board if you prefer that.

Swapped out the psu for something that isn't terrible :)

Hybrid hard drives are not worth the cash. I would stick with a regular HDD/SSD setup.

No need for the 6850K if you only plan on running a single gpu. So stick with the i7 5820K or i7 6800K if you want the newer Broadwell-E chip.

The Corsair H105 has a thicker rad so it should be a bit better than the H100i. The H105 rad is 38mm thick so it should fit fine (Coolermaster spec says a max of 40mm for the rad)

Go with the cheaper 3000MHz Corsair ram. I don't think X99 takes advantage of faster ram like Skylake (I might be wrong) so anything 2400MHz or above would do fine.

I would also look at powerline adapters rather than a wifi adapter. It should give you faster speeds for browsing/online gaming etc.


My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £1,577.75
(includes shipping: £0.00)
​


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cheers for the reply.

I did look at the 5820k but it didn't allow me to run the ram i wanted. It seems to take so long for new ram to come out so i thought i'd buy better than i needed to future proof it a bit as i might not be building another system (which is what i said last time lol)

Yes some of the x99 boards support up to 3600 i think, mines only up to 3200/3400 from what i can remember.

Just watched a video on the H105 and apparently you can run it a lot quieter and get pretty much the same results as running it on auto, than the 100i because of the thicker radiator, so cheers for that, I'll definitely be swapping that out. Quiet is definitely something i always aim for, i don't want to be hearing any fans.

would the 6850k be better in the long run if i can afford it? I'm looking at getting one of these:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/dell...reen-led-monitor-midnight-grey-mo-084-de.html

I did look at power line adapters but my sisters already hogging the cables lol and there isn't any sockets left in the router hehehe.

I'll swap the hard drives. my last computer was a iMac for work purposes and the fusion drive seems so much faster, whether or not thats just linux rather than the hard drive lol. but if i'm getting a ssd anyway, yeah your right seems pointless getting another one so to speak.

Theres no sound tests out yet for the 1070 range is there? asus seemed to be quieter than the rest of the field in previous versions. As its an OC model it probably isn't but wouldn't mind a comparison as that would probably make me make my decision. I'll have a look round.

I'll take your word for the PSU lol as i don't have a clue about them. is a 650 enough?
 
jigger said:
I can't see the Pascal architecture holding up well much past DX11. Maybe go with one of the discounted Fury cards.

What system do you currently have? A six year rig is probably still offering top end performance.
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hahah I just read up on dx12 it seems this generation and next gen gpu's still probably won't be able to use all the features of dx12 as the hardware is too far behind on both. New AMD's allow you to use one feature (that i'm aware of) but would hardly call that future proof haha.


I see your point! so really it doesn't matter what i get.
 
todesign said:
cheers for the reply.

I did look at the 5820k but it didn't allow me to run the ram i wanted. It seems to take so long for new ram to come out so i thought i'd buy better than i needed to future proof it a bit as i might not be building another system (which is what i said last time lol)

Yes some of the x99 boards support up to 3600 i think, mines only up to 3200/3400 from what i can remember.

Just watched a video on the H105 and apparently you can run it a lot quieter and get pretty much the same results as running it on auto, than the 100i because of the thicker radiator, so cheers for that, I'll definitely be swapping that out. Quiet is definitely something i always aim for, i don't want to be hearing any fans.

would the 6850k be better in the long run if i can afford it? I'm looking at getting one of these:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/dell...reen-led-monitor-midnight-grey-mo-084-de.html

I did look at power line adapters but my sisters already hogging the cables lol and there isn't any sockets left in the router hehehe.

I'll swap the hard drives. my last computer was a iMac for work purposes and the fusion drive seems so much faster, whether or not thats just linux rather than the hard drive lol. but if i'm getting a ssd anyway, yeah your right seems pointless getting another one so to speak.

Theres no sound tests out yet for the 1070 range is there? asus seemed to be quieter than the rest of the field in previous versions. As its an OC model it probably isn't but wouldn't mind a comparison as that would probably make me make my decision. I'll have a look round.

I'll take your word for the PSU lol as i don't have a clue about them. is a 650 enough?
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The i7 5820K will run fine with 3000Mhz or 3200MHz ram. The Gigabyte board in my spec takes ram up to 3600MHz.

Running the fans at about 50% should make the H105 pretty quiet.

The 6850K isn't really worth the extra money for your usage. The main difference between it and the 5820K/6800K is the amount of pci-e lanes and a bit of extra clock speed. For a single gpu setup you won't need 40 lanes. The 28 lanes on the 5820K/6800K is enough.

You could always buy a Network Switch if you have run out of room on your router.

I guess you would have to check out some reviews regarding noise levels. There shouldn't be a huge difference between the likes of Asus, MSI and Gigabyte though. If you have a preference for Asus then stick with the Strix.

Yes 650W is easily enough for a single GPU.
 
lee32uk said:
The i7 5820K will run fine with 3000Mhz or 3200MHz ram. The Gigabyte board in my spec takes ram up to 3600MHz.

Running the fans at about 50% should make the H105 pretty quiet.

The 6850K isn't really worth the extra money for your usage. The main difference between it and the 5820K/6800K is the amount of pci-e lanes and a bit of extra clock speed. For a single gpu setup you won't need 40 lanes. The 28 lanes on the 5820K/6800K is enough.

You could always buy a Network Switch if you have run out of room on your router.

I guess you would have to check out some reviews regarding noise levels. There shouldn't be a huge difference between the likes of Asus, MSI and Gigabyte though. If you have a preference for Asus then stick with the Strix.

Yes 650W is easily enough for a single GPU.
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cheers man, I'll stick with the 650 psu then :)

is 28 lanes enough if i went SLI in like 2-3 years time with the same card? when prices are cheaper. would that make the 6850k more useful then?

cheers for the replies man really appreciate it, i'm a bit out of the loop at the moment. hehe
 
todesign said:
cheers man, I'll stick with the 650 psu then :)

is 28 lanes enough if i went SLI in like 2-3 years time with the same card? when prices are cheaper. would that make the 6850k more useful then?

cheers for the replies man really appreciate it, i'm a bit out of the loop at the moment. hehe
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Yes 28 lanes is still enough for SLI. The gpu's would run at x16/x8. The difference between x16 and x8 is negligible so it won't affect performance.


http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2488-pci-e-3-x8-vs-x16-performance-impact-on-gpus
 
if i go with that 6800k i knock nearly £200 off my build hmmmm. tempted lol, I just seen the news about this new zen chip thats coming from amd (the one that will rival the 6900k) that would surely knock prices down. i don't think i can wait that long though. hehe
 
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