Section 21 notice.

Scam said:
Was the letter removed from the OP? I feel like I am missing something :confused:

I've never heard of a section 21 being issued during a tenancy (or at the start, eh?), I thought that was the beginning of the process to evict someone :confused:

A quick Google suggests the landlord would still need to give 2 months notice separate to the s21, so what do they gain by issuing it at the start of a tenancy? :confused:
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It saves them 2months.

I see it's no longer legal to issue at start of tenancy, it has to be at least 4months in before they issue.
 
So they expect you to sign a binding contract for a year, but then issue this thing, incase they want to throw you out in two months?! Its basically saying you cant leave for a year without being liable for the rent, but I can have you out in two months if I want.

Why is it legal to use an s21 in this way?!
 
Jamesyboyjim said:
So they expect you to sign a binding contract for a year, but then issue this thing, incase they want to throw you out in two months?! Its basically saying you cant leave for a year without being liable for the rent, but I can have you out in two months if I want.

Why is it legal to use an s21 in this way?!
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No. They're dated at end of fixed tenancy.
Probably because no ones got the money to challenge it, like so many dubious dealings.
 
So your landlord gives you a s21 at the start of your tenancy, and that is classed as your notice to leave at the end? That sounds awful. How do you know if you'll have to move out in 6/12 months? If he's actually going to use the section 21? :confused:
 
Scam said:
So your landlord gives you a s21 at the start of your tenancy, and that is classed as your notice to leave at the end? That sounds awful. How do you know if you'll have to move out in 6/12 months? If he's actually going to use the section 21? :confused:
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You never know that's the joys of renting.
 
Scam said:
So your landlord gives you a s21 at the start of your tenancy, and that is classed as your notice to leave at the end? That sounds awful. How do you know if you'll have to move out in 6/12 months? If he's actually going to use the section 21? :confused:
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They can end tenancy after the fixed term anyway, so section 21 makes no difference unless your scummy and try staying and not paying etc.
 
In our contract, which we'd renew every year, after the first six months, either us or the landlord could issue 2 months notice. this was the way for the 7 years we lived at the property.

I think if you are good tenants you'll have nothing to worry about anyway. All you can ask of your landlord is, if he ever contemplates selling, he at least keep you in the loop so you can give yourselves a fighting chance to find somewhere else.

Our landlord came round and told us to our faces what his plans were, as he was straight with us, I was more than accommodating with last minute viewings etc and we kept the property cleaner and clutter free than we would normally throughout the selling process.

its a shame that so many tenants and landlords treat each other like dirt meaning stupid things like this section 21 exist.
 
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Glaucus said:
They can end tenancy after the fixed term anyway, so section 21 makes no difference unless your scummy and try staying and not paying etc.
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But they still have to give you 2 months notice to end the contract, right? Oh I don't know..

Jamesyboyjim said:
I think if you are good tenants you'll have nothing to worry about anyway. All you can ask of your landlord is, if he ever contemplates selling, he at least keep you in the loop so you can give yourselves a fighting chance to find somewhere else.
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It sounds like you've been very lucky, as for every 'good landlord' story I hear, there's about 20 'terrible landlord' stories. Don't forget most tenants never even talk to their landlord and it all goes through an awful scum-sucking letting agency.

You're right though. If landlords stopped treating tenants like lower-class citizens then they'd soon find tenants might not be quite so difficult ;)
 
Scam said:
But they still have to give you 2 months notice to end the contract, right? Oh I don't know..
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This means they can take it straight to court as soon as the date is up if needed to get a possession order :S which may or may not be appropriate (usually wouldn't come to that).

Seems a bit not quite in the original spirit of the legislation IMO though I can kind of understand it to some extent.
 
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