self-defence weapon or not?

Glaucus said:
Lol, how can people still be sing tony Martin of an example on why the law sucks.

You have huge amounts of rights. You only have to feel threatened to use force. What you can't do, is when you are no longer threatened use force. Tony Martin, shot the kid in the back as he was running away. No threat, so totally illegal.
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This pretty much.

To be self defence you need to be in danger, in the back as they run away does not qualify as this.

A man killed an intruder recently with a knife & got off scot free - rightly so as they had no way of knowing the intention of the home invader (could have been there to kill, not steal).
 
- Pour water on outside entry points - it will freeze and turn into a slippery hazard
- Paint pots ready to launch over top of stairs
- Electrify door nobs
- Sharp toys and xmas decorations scattered by entry points
- Iron on hand ready to throw
- Blow torch rigged to fire on head when door opens
- Let a tarantula loose in the house

All of the above.
 
C.R.A.Z.Y said:
Personally I wouldn't put my brothers dogs in harms way let alone any of my own!
They would be locked in a bedroom with loved ones as I call the fuzz. Simples, and by far the best action to protect your loved ones.
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The main point in stopping burglary is making potential burglars think your place is more trouble than it's worth. Most burglary is opportunistic - some lowlifes nicking some stuff to sell for a fraction of what it's worth. They can be put off by making it more trouble than it's worth for them to burgle your house. Hence, for example, the sturdy doors with proper locks and multiple bolts on my house. Sure, a burglar could smash a window and get in that way...but that attracts attention and therefore ups the "more trouble than it's worth" meter. A large, watchful dog does a lot to up the "more trouble than it's worth" meter. They know they're going to get noticed by the dog, which will raise the alarm. They'll also be scared of the dog. Dogs are predators. Humans aren't. A dog snarl bothers people. It speaks to the "scamper away, little monkey thing" part of our brain.
 
feedtheram said:
- Pour water on outside entry points - it will freeze and turn into a slippery hazard
- Paint pots ready to launch over top of stairs
- Electrify door nobs
- Sharp toys and xmas decorations scattered by entry points
- Iron on hand ready to throw
- Blow torch rigged to fire on head when door opens
- Let a tarantula loose in the house

All of the above.
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proper lol :D
 
My primary concern would be to protect my other half. As long as they don't threaten her or me, then I'd be happy with giving them a kick up the bum as they ran out.

By startling them they'll undoubtedly start fleeing anyway, however if not then I would try and grab them and pin them down until the police arrived. I wouldn't go out of my way to kick 7 shades of excrement out of them as it's pointless and achieves nothing, and with my strength, and with the adrenaline pumping I'd probably do some life altering damage - really just not worth it.

If they're armed, I don't know what I'd do. My primary instinct is to protect so would do anything to ensure that is fulfilled, no matter what it takes. However it's hard to know what you'd do if faced in that situation.
 
feedtheram said:
- Pour water on outside entry points - it will freeze and turn into a slippery hazard
- Paint pots ready to launch over top of stairs
- Electrify door nobs
- Sharp toys and xmas decorations scattered by entry points
- Iron on hand ready to throw
- Blow torch rigged to fire on head when door opens
- Let a tarantula loose in the house

All of the above.
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brilliant :D
 
feedtheram said:
- Pour water on outside entry points - it will freeze and turn into a slippery hazard
- Paint pots ready to launch over top of stairs
- Electrify door nobs
- Sharp toys and xmas decorations scattered by entry points
- Iron on hand ready to throw
- Blow torch rigged to fire on head when door opens
- Let a tarantula loose in the house

All of the above.
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Home Alone, classic and no one notices!.
 
Undeterred said:
In order to act in self defence one must apprehend that they are going to be subjected to violence and/or have been subjected to violence AND the act of self defence is reasonable under all circumstances"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/20/appeal-court-frees-man-burglar-attack
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Right, ok, but I'm just saying, irrespective of self defence or not, as long as I or anyone else in my household isn't put under threat, then I wouldn't go out of my way to rip the flesh from their bones, and feed them their still beating heart.
 
Freefaller said:
Right, ok, but I'm just saying, irrespective of self defence or not, as long as I or anyone else in my household isn't put under threat, then I wouldn't go out of my way to rip the flesh from their bones, and feed them their still beating heart.
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In that case you will be safe from the clutches of the criminal justice system unlike the unfortunate souls in the above posted link :p
 
Undeterred said:
In that case you will be safe from the clutches of the criminal justice system unlike the unfortunate souls in the above posted link :p
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Good-oh! :)

As I said though, one never knows how one reacts. I'm fiercely protective, and am far from being a waif-like creature - if it came to a clash, I wouldn't hesitate to do whatever necessary to ensure I, and those around me are safe.
 
Hitman_Leon said:
A kick?; from a man of your size and stature, cue comedic low flying criminal hitting a building in another post-code :eek:.
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haha! I'm a big softy really! Though as I posted above, I am very protective - so I don't know how I'd react.

I'd like to think, that I'd have the thought of somehow restraining them until the police came rather than just being aggressive.

I don't crave blood, or retribution - I just want to live my life and not be disturbed by scum wanting my stuff. Again, if they were armed, I'd like to think that I'd be able to scare them off, however, what are you going to do against someone who doesn't care about you and would happily release your insides out onto the floor? Say to them "just leave, I won't call the police..." or something like that? Of course if they attack you, then you don't stop hitting until they stop moving... but actually attacking someone first... I doubt I'd do it. What if they fatally injure you? Or you see those you care about getting injured or worse, because you aggressed the thief? I think that's my worse nightmare ever, being incapable of saving or looking after the ones I'm meant to look after.
 
My flat is currently in such a mess (moving furniture around, and having a good clear out) that any burgular would end up tripping over and hurting themselves on something.

Though, I do currently have a set of golf clubs in my room so if I heard something worrying I'd venture out with one of them and then crap myself when I see that it's just the cat who's knocked over the bin. I'd probably end up hitting myself with the thing.
 
Freefaller said:
Good-oh! :)

As I said though, one never knows how one reacts. I'm fiercely protective, and am far from being a waif-like creature - if it came to a clash, I wouldn't hesitate to do whatever necessary to ensure I, and those around me are safe.
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One of my best friends is like a mirror image in stature to you; and location he's English and moved to France. Bought himself a huge stone barn and some land and turned it into a house, think he left the door at the front the same size just for convenience.

You and he; and people of your size have one great advantage, raising so much as a threatening eyebrow will most times send any would be attacker away on his toes. My friend Andy never punched anyone; he pushes people away or in the few times he has had to defend himself he slaps with the flat of his hand.

Size dose have its drawbacks; when you see him get on his XJR1300 and he looks like he's riding a scooter, funny as hell.
 
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