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ElRazur

ElRazur

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Exactly my intentions. When people make post here about how poles and migrant are literely (sp?) destroying or runing this country, how some migrant are seem to be racist and what not and the general respond in GD is send them back hence the title.

When you go and check out the news link, you will find that the people who commited the crimes are four yong white males - now im assuming this will be the majority doing an unprovoked attack on a minority.

What am trying to say is instead of us "sending them back" perhaps we should sort out ourselves - internal problems and stuff?

I dunno if anyone sees my logic.
 
dirtydog said:
Not really because we can't deport our own scum, much as it would be nice to. They have a right to stay because they were born here. Immigrants don't have that right because they are guests here.
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Perhaps we should get our own house in order before saying "send them all back" as the only solution?

I am trying to use a different approach to merge two or more topics here, not sure if anyone is getting my flow.
 
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dirtydog said:
Why not do both, why do we have to do one or the other? :)
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I never said do one or the other but merely saying do what is the most important then you can sort out what comes next.
 
Flash Maclean said:
People get attacked and sometimes killed, it doesn't really matter if they are Sikh or not, it could easily have been a Jew or a Catholic. Who cares?
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Are you saying it is ok for someone to get killed just because they are different? And i think someone should care, the lack of togetherness bond is part of what is so hard to acheive here. Look at the muslims for example and you will see what i mean by togetherness or take a look at the ethic groups here, they care about one another.
 
StixxUK said:
I think (hope) I get what you're trying to say ElRazur. That this forum is infested with racists.

I don't think this incident is at all relevant to people complaining about Polish migrants, though.
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Perhaps we are, i dont mind if it is a joke as such but then when it start to appear like foreigners are responsible or to be blame for the demise of this country then it is just plain stupid and racist in a way.

What i did was highlighted a common problem happening here - racial attacks and then suggest we fix our own home before blaming migrants. I dunno if anyone sees it at all.
 
TheCrow said:
I think youl fine the majority of people are nationalists, and its about time that people stood up for there own country.
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There is a fine line between having a national pride and been racist. BNP crossed that line long time ago and so do some post in here will suggest. (those who cant help but say "send them back" all the time)
 
dirtydog said:
Hopefully you aren't implying that criticism of Polish mass immigration is racist, because they all seem to be white AFAIK :)
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Racism is broader than that. Skin colour dont make a difference in this case. I can be racist towards a fellow african man e.g A somalian (or somalese) He is a different race from me.
 
G0dfather said:
Indeed. I feel for him as it was his hair and it was to do with his religion. He should be glad that it was just his hair that was cut off and not anything else.
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No he shouldnt be glad! It shouldnt have happened in the first place.
 
@if ®afiq said:
I know Visage can be a bit controversial, but racist? ;) :p
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Honestly i havent viewed him in that light but then i just see him as someone who like to argue/debate with his nemesis Virii (to the point of me thinking both of them are gay) :p
 
Raikiri said:
Basically El, you're saying the UK has a lot more porblem with British people than it does with immigrants? (If so, then why not just say this?!).
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Im a complicated person-who likes to use a different approach to basic problem- all wrapped up in one body.... :p

While it is probably true having more people coming in which are likely to provoke the morons through little fault of their own aren't helping matters. It would be far easier to sort out our own country without them here.
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Probably true? more like most definitely true. If our house was in order and we have the heads of our leaders screwed on, maybe then we wont have to blame someone else?
 
Wang said:
Just wondering, would you have posted this topic had it been a group of Sikh boys attacking a white man to make your point of "sorting things out at home"?
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I would still use the same approach - We have internal problems let us not blame the poles or migrants. :)
 
Wang said:
There is a chance i am just being ignorant here, but if the point you are trying to make is regarding sorting out affairs with English nationals first before blaming allsorts of things on immigrants etc, why did you have to use a racial attack for the example of problems at home? It's just that it appears to me as it's done to provoke a reaction.
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I think you might have misunderstood me or i didnt make myself clear enough. Let me try and break it down. If the example i used was the other way round i.e white being the victim, i would still make this thread to highlight the internal problems we have and then say we should sort it out before blaming migrants on things which are secondary problems imo.

I had to use the example because it is a common occurence here and perhaps highlights what some have long argued (bnp?) a failed multi-cultural state or system? If this aint sorted, you can see how easy it is to blame other people for it?
 
Raikiri said:
Exactly what I was saying, just waiting for El to tell us to think outside of the box now :/
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Your point been...? Are you telling we aint quick to dish out blame just because it is easy to do so? By the way there isnt any box.
 
Raikiri said:
My point being you seem to justify any misguided idea you have (which is almost always completely one sided with no compromise) by telling the other person to think outside of the box thinking that it is a valid argument..
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Woah, how is my idea misguided? (that we are quick to blame migrants when have our own problems or something like that). Anyhow think outside the box is like saying approach the problem from a different perspective. Also i dont know you are qualified to label what is a valid arguement and what is not.

Of course we are quick to blame them, we would have to take a closer look at ourselves and sort out our problems if they were not here. So either way you look at it immigrants do cause problems, even if it is not their fault
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Aint that part of what i was stressing all along? Sure they might cause problem but perhaps we should initiate the move to fix our own back yard first then we will be in a better position to blame the migrants and send them back?
 
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wordy said:
And when a British person commits a crime we blame the british person, when poles or migrants commit a crime we blame the poles or migrants. You seem to be insinuating we blame crime on poles and migrants, that simply isn't true....and is a bit insulting
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Again im misunderstood or perhaps i didnt make myself clear enough. What im saying is simple - Fix home first then blame anyone who comes to mess it up after.

I aint insinuating anything but saying what i see here.
 
MoNkeE said:
I'm just bemused with the fact most people can't understand anything El's saying :p

-RaZ
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I think im speaking french with a hint of Bangra...? Oh could it be just that people see what im saying but dont like the fact that it is about us and hence refuse to see it....Which ever way man, im bemused just like you.
 
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