Sending emails through a different router

[Delvis]

Hi all...I know the title is brief, but bare with me

Basically, I am with my ISP at home, and can send and receive emails perfectly fine as you would presume.

Now, most days as I'm unemployed atm I spend at my girlfriends house, I can receive my emails fine there, but when it comes to sending emails, it doesn't want to work.

I believe the emails go via SMTP...But is it becaus I'm trying to send an email through my girlfriends router? Or is there another reason? Or do I need to set up something my end in order to enable me to send emails from wherever I am.

Thanks all

 

[Delvis]

Its due to being on a different ISP. You need to change the SMTP server to your GFs ISP and most likely, add in their account details to authorise on it.

There are other ways around it though, such as by using Google to control the mail server etc.

Yeah thought it was something like that

Thanks though, I' guessing i'll need to add in the ISP, then add the account name and password?

Might have a look into it, intrigued about that google thing you speak of though?

 

[Delvis]

Never knew that, surely his GF's isp wouldnt relay email for an email domain they dont own? But i would have thought the smtp server he is using is accessible all over the web?

I 'think', I can set up a different pop3 server from my house location, then add a different password, and add that to outlook...

Not sure though, on their website it says about telnetting into a domain to do it, but obviously i can only do it from my house, as that's where the ISP is.


Main reason is because I don't like using the webmail client

 

[Delvis]

This is another way of doing it. You can leave the auth details on whilst connected back at yours to save turning it and and off.

All details you need should be on both ISP websites - they should have email/Outlook guides.

So I would literally use the SMTP address for the ISP I am sending from? Then thats that?

I'll have a play thanks

Ugh, plus the account settings, bah!

 

[Delvis]

Yeah or as mentioned, you maybe able to still use your ISP one but need to auth with user/pass. Best to look up on the email guides on your/your GF's ISP pages

Had a little look, although when I did i stumbled upon the words "If you are using a different ISP to send email then you cannot send it through BT" Or something along those lines ...Which is silly.

Must be a way, going to try something my end...Hate being a newby to networking in this manor

 

[Delvis]

Can you not use Webmail the times when you are not at home?

Most ISP's have webmail access of some description.

EDIT: Please Ignore.

Just read you dont like webmail clients.

Gmail POP forwarding for the win although is still webmail

Yeah I can use the web mail, just it is naff...And it seems to add random characters into the emails.

 

[Delvis]

You can probably access your ISPs SMTP server via the submission port 587.
In outlook, change the advanced server settings from SMTP port 25 to port 587 and try again. BT probably wont be blocking that.
You will still need to authenticate though.

Authenticate with whom though? My ISP or theres? As that is the problem atm, as the person who knows the ISP details is on holiday, and I don't want to go snooping around in his room

Still no joy my end sadly.......All I get is:

The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by the server. The rejected e-mail address was '***************'. Subject 'testttttttt', Account: 'pop3.******', Server: 'post.demon.co.uk', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '550 Authentication required when sending mail on port 587', Port: 587, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

Which is an authentication error.

 

[Delvis]

If you're trying to relay via your ISP's SMTP server you'll need to auth with details provided by your ISP

A quick google provides some instructions for Demon: http://www.demon.net/helpdesk/technicallibrary/misc/smtp/

Nice, having a look through, I don't know where that TLS option is though? Using Outlook express...

Initial try was a failure...but I'll keep at it

EDIT:

It's trying to send the mail....just it keeps timing out now...that's using port 465 though, port 587 didn't work I don't think.

 

[Delvis]

587 worked. It just expects some authentication:

Yeah, however I'm using my correct auth details....If I had the auth details of the ISP I was connected to I'd have no problem I don't think...?

However when I use port 465 (As that link given to me suggests) then it just times out....as if it is actually trying to send.

 

[Delvis]

Which server were you trying to use and which set of details were you using?

Well, I'm trying to send it through the demon server, as thats what the following link says I can do: http://www.demon.net/helpdesk/technicallibrary/misc/smtp/

And it asks to put in my ISP's auth details (Demon)....I believe I am connected to a BT line atm (As I'm not at home much atm)...I would try BT's SMTP address however I do not have the auth details for this account at the time being

 

[Delvis]

So you're using Demon's mail server(s) to send mail that normally sends fine from your Demon ADSL using the SMTP authentication details Demon tell you to use?

Should work fine, unless your client's doing something odd. The only thing that might be worth trying is switching SSL on since it seems you're not already.

Indeed, at home everything works fine, I can send an receive with most default settings (ie ports etc)...

However here, I can receive messages fine using the demon pop3 address...But sending just will not work whatever I try...

The SLL option...If I tick that in outlook express, it greys out the option to type in a port manually....Which it then throws back a fault message.

The only time I do not get a fault message is when I try and use port 465 with no SSL enabled.

Cheers for replying btw

 

[Delvis]

Port 587 is connecting as it's telling you to authenticate, port 465 is timing out as it can't connect - BT have probably blocked that too then. Sound like your username and/or password (which will be your Demon username/password) are set incorrectly in Outlook.

If you specify the BT SMTP server and authenticate it may still not relay your domain as it's not one of theirs.

Hm, yeah just had a thought....some reason I thought that when I click the SSL option it blanks the port number out, but it just resets it to 25...then I can change it back to 587...

I did the above, and it asked for my auth details, so I'm going to play again.

I'm just confused on what it's asking password wise though...as I have two....one for the 'dial up' to demon, and the other as a logon for outlook or something and web mail etc....

 

[Delvis]

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite!.............









Sorted it!

Using the SMTP setting from Demon, with port 587 and SSL enabled...And my auth settings for my broadband

It was me being a douchebag basically concerning the SSL setting, so thanks for the initial link Daegan, and thanks to all who helped and pointed me in the correct direction.

Cheers