Sensible next move?

Yaayuh! · 7 Jul 2016 at 15:54

ZX10R?

tom_e · 7 Jul 2016 at 15:59

H2 Go on, you know you want to.

Scythe · 7 Jul 2016 at 20:37

MowyTone said:
I went from an SV to a CBR600F and I think you will be suprised at just how much more speed you get by moving to an IL4 sports. Yes you have to get used to the fact there is not a lot going on below 5K revs in comparison but you soon get used to it.

By all means look and go for a 1000cc but just wanted to point out you don't have to go that high to get more performance and power than the SV

I'm with this man. When I stepped up from an SV to a ZX6R the difference was significant.

If you're commuting don't forget running costs will increase. Tyres, chain, sprockets etc are all bigger and cost more. It also won't be as good on fuel. For some idea, my ZX6R will do 150 miles on a tank on a stroll, on a 1000 you're looking at less.

Participant · 7 Jul 2016 at 20:55

All great points people, thanks for the opinions.

Don't care about running costs really, I just want the fun, the looks, and the power.

I'm guessing even below 5k revs it'll have a great deal more poke than my SV!

Back to trawling Autotrader.....

TallPaul_S · 7 Jul 2016 at 21:50

Scythe said:
I'm with this man. When I stepped up from an SV to a ZX6R the difference was significant.

If you're commuting don't forget running costs will increase. Tyres, chain, sprockets etc are all bigger and cost more. It also won't be as good on fuel. For some idea, my ZX6R will do 150 miles on a tank on a stroll, on a 1000 you're looking at less.

You'd be surprised how little extra tyres, chain and sprockets cost.

For example, from wemoto, for my CB400 (less power than the SV650) a chain an sprocket set is £97. For a 2012 CBR1000RR it's £110.

For a set of Angel GT's in 120/60 ZR17 and 160/60 ZR17 you're looking at £86 and £115 respectively. In 120/70 ZR17 and 190/50 ZR17 and it's £95 and £125.

So £19 difference in tyres (obviously you'll go through more rears on the blade

) and £13 extra for chain and sprockets. Running a 1000 isn't really that much more costly than running a 400/600, apart from the extra tyre wear, but you'll probably save that on the front tyre wear

Looking at fuelly, a CBR100RR seems to be around mid-40's MPG, so again not a major difference.

Sin_Chase · 7 Jul 2016 at 23:09

Participant said:
MT10s and S1000Rs aren't faired, aren't supersports, and I don't want that type of bike, so I don't know how relevant that is.

It's relevant in that the £8k asking price for that Honda seems a lot of money to spend on it. Ok, if that was the EXACT bike/version you wanted I can see it, but it's not is it? You seem quite open to ideas?

I just think 8 grand puts you in territory you may not have considered. A work colleague just bought a newer S1000RR for the same money you are looking at. It's a supersport, faired and absolutely loaded with toys.

Participant · 8 Jul 2016 at 11:00

Sin_Chase said:
It's relevant in that the £8k asking price for that Honda seems a lot of money to spend on it. Ok, if that was the EXACT bike/version you wanted I can see it, but it's not is it? You seem quite open to ideas?

I just think 8 grand puts you in territory you may not have considered. A work colleague just bought a newer S1000RR for the same money you are looking at. It's a supersport, faired and absolutely loaded with toys.

I'm definitely open to ideas as long as they're fully faired SS litre bikes, yes.

Now the bit in bold is very interesting, maybe I'm not looking hard enough.

skyripper · 8 Jul 2016 at 11:31

I don't want to rain on your parade, but you've gone from 125 to a middle capacity SV, and now planning to jump in to the big capacity supersports in a small space of time.

Run some insurance quotes as that will need factoring into your budgets.

Of course if you're an old git like I am, the difference between a CBR600RR and a CRR1000RR insurance will be about the same a as packet of M&Ms.

Teabag_Terry2 · 8 Jul 2016 at 11:58

Be careful about buying the BMW. Do some research on them first, can be very expensive to buy, run, insure and keep them functioning properly, especially compared to the jap bikes, which are mostly bulletproof.

TallPaul_S · 8 Jul 2016 at 14:06

skyripper said:
I don't want to rain on your parade, but you've gone from 125 to a middle capacity SV, and now planning to jump in to the big capacity supersports in a small space of time.

Run some insurance quotes as that will need factoring into your budgets.

Of course if you're an old git like I am, the difference between a CBR600RR and a CRR1000RR insurance will be about the same a as packet of M&Ms.

I'd hope he's done some insurance quotes, otherwise he might be in for a large shock! There's a reason I'm going for a naked 1000cc as my next bike, even 600cc sports bikes are £1200+ insurance, vs £300 for a naked litre bike.

robin7 · 8 Jul 2016 at 14:32

For 8k I can think of a lot of nicer bikes than that CBR1000.

(But then I just really really don't like the look of them for some reason).

RSV4 and find a good independent nearby?

TallPaul_S · 8 Jul 2016 at 14:38

robin7 said:
For 8k I can think of a lot of nicer bikes than that CBR1000.

(But then I just really really don't like the look of them for some reason).

RSV4 and find a good independent nearby?

He's gonna be commuting on it, remember! There's loads of extremely nice supersport 1000's out there but I wouldn't want to commute on most of them.

If it was only summer/good weather commuting then maybe, but not year round.

Participant · 8 Jul 2016 at 14:49

TallPaul_S said:
I'd hope he's done some insurance quotes, otherwise he might be in for a large shock! There's a reason I'm going for a naked 1000cc as my next bike, even 600cc sports bikes are £1200+ insurance, vs £300 for a naked litre bike.

Haven't run any quotes yet, I'm 35 so I'm hoping it won't be horrible, <£1k wouldn't be the end of the world.

robin7 said:
For 8k I can think of a lot of nicer bikes than that CBR1000.

Everyone keeps saying this, but I'm not seeing any actual links to better bikes for my purposes (first 1000CC bike for commuting + weekends) for less money, age and mileage taken into account.

RSV4s look great, such a bike would be perfect, but the nearest RSV4s are 40 miles away and the cheapest is £13k.

TallPaul_S · 8 Jul 2016 at 15:28

Ooh, I'd deffo run a couple of quotes before you look any further, just in case.

Just looking on ebay and there isn't much choice in the 1000cc superbike area, are you commuting all year round? It's probably between an S1000R and fireblade.

Edit: Just run a quote for me, 10k miles a year inc commuting on a 2012 anniversary ABS blade, 1 years NCD, 1 years licence, garaged. Ignoring MCE at £570 with a £1500 excess (!! :rolleyes:

) the cheapest is £1063 with a £600 excess.

Diddums · 8 Jul 2016 at 15:47

TL1000?

tom_e · 8 Jul 2016 at 15:52

Diddums said:
TL1000?

Are you really suggesting one of the most challenging litre bikes ever created as an everyday commuting tool?

Diddums · 8 Jul 2016 at 15:53

Yep. Seeing as anything's up for it

MowyTone · 8 Jul 2016 at 19:48

Diddums said:
TL1000?

In for a penny and all that? I know a guy that uses a TLR1000 for commute

We are all mad anyway so what's the matter with this?

Dogbreath · 8 Jul 2016 at 20:08

tom_e said:
Are you really suggesting one of the most challenging litre bikes ever created as an everyday commuting tool?

A lot of it's mythical window making reputation has been exagerated over the years. If the suspension has been properly sorted they are fine, but they are big heavy old things even though they go pretty well.

.one. · 8 Jul 2016 at 20:21

Dogbreath said:
A lot of it's mythical window making reputation has been exagerated over the years. If the suspension has been properly sorted they are fine, but they are big heavy old things even though they go pretty well.

I agree I had one when sorted great bike mine developed a crack in the frame which was common problem and things like engine bolts have the habit of undoing themselves and the lethal speed wobbles of course