Sent Item To Wrong Address

Hyper · 19 Jul 2007 at 10:32

Thanks for that Darq, I phoned RM yesterday and they gave me a similar reply saying that they would never just tell any they could 'keep' an item.

Hyper · 19 Jul 2007 at 13:43

laissez-faire said:
To the OP:

Looking back over when you posted the last email from him he wrote something along the lines 'and judging by what was posted on that internet link you gave me...'

You didn't give him the link to this thread did you?

No, I dont know what he means by that, I havent give him any links.

Thanks for that post Explicit, very helpful

Hyper · 19 Jul 2007 at 15:11

A) I sent the goods on Thursday last week by Special Delivery and the the posty left a card at the recipients house and he collected it on Saturday morning.

B) I realized what I had done on Monday night when I got an e-mail from the person who was meant to get the package and he said someone else had signed for it.

C) I informed the recipient straight away and got a reply the following morning (yesterday) saying he had sold it at a car boot sale on Sunday.

Thanks, Sam

Hyper · 19 Jul 2007 at 16:32

There is no proof that he does, but even if he does, there is nothing he can do to stop the law from speaking its opinion :confused:

Hyper · 20 Jul 2007 at 13:58

He must have received the letter this morning because I recieved this e-mail from him:

HI Sam,

As previously confirmed I do consider this matter closed, however I made an agreement with the 2nd caller that next time I saw my friend I would see if he still has the money, amazingly he still has some of it - although I am not legally obligated to do so I feel it is the right thing to do and also I am a man of my word - I now have 55 pounds of the original 60 which I can make available to yourself - please let me know wether you would like this - as if not i would like to return the money to my friend ASAP.

Regards

Mr M Green

At first I would have happily taken that from him but now with all his lies etc I am not too sure.

Hyper · 20 Jul 2007 at 23:42

Had another reply from him tonight saying...

HI Sam,

I am not going to enter in to the legalities(needless to say I was already aware of the below) of who is wrong and right as If required I will leave this to my solicitors, as opposed to information obtained from the internet which is not quoted in its entirety and could potentially be the wrong laws/acts altogether.

After reviewing the below I do have one question that you could ask your contact, purely out of curiosity: (a) unsolicited goods are sent to a person (the recipient) with a view to his acquiring them. how was I to know that this wasn't the intention?,.. another point is that this is 1 of roughly 6 acts that apply to this situation all in differing degrees of specificness, I would ask him to look further than looking on goggle and drawing conclusions as I feel that that is what may have happened.

Please be careful of the legal advice you take from non-qualified individuals - as you can see from the below, the law is open to interpretation in many ways, you just need to make sure it is interpreted in the correct way which is the confusing part, for example it could be deemed using an additional part of the below act, and probably the key part that protects the recipient, is that you may be liable to pay a large fine of up to £5000 for pursuing payment/the item back - however this specific part of the act is aimed at business, there is a completely different section of the law governing liabilities for private parties/members of the general public, which, at a guess no one on the net is aware of, as when I searched for several hours i didn't find it.

Also on a different note, have you posted any details about this on the web as I am getting some rather strange mails through EBAY contact seller refering to returning the card?.

I am offering you this as I agreed to it, and as far as I can see it is morally, not legally, the correct thing to do. I require a simple yes or no as to whether you require this money or not, please let me know how you wish to proceed.

Regards

Mr Green

Should I reply or not :confused:

Hyper · 21 Jul 2007 at 14:23

Well he has sent me yet another reply this morning even though I didnt reply back to him, he is getting desperate in my eyes.

Hello,

After taking advice I have been advised that as I have already offered you the 55 I should just offer you the original 60 pounds you requested for your mistake.

I have now transfered 60 pounds to your paypal account - this is what you have requested in your mail(attached).

Apologies around the delay in raising funds.

Kind regards

Mr Green

The e-mail he attached was one of the first ones I sent to him before he came with all his lies when I requested the £60 back, now that it has gone on so long and he denied me of it at first I am not willing to accept that ammount. He sent me £60 via paypal without asking me first, should I refund it and explain I either want the full ammount as stated in the letter or a return of the card.

Hyper · 22 Jul 2007 at 23:23

Hi all,

Thanks for all the great support and I am really surprized at how much this topic has took off. I am going to stick by my guns and send him a message stating the £60 isnt enough and as already stated in the letter I want either the card returned or £120.

I will keep you all updated

Hyper · 23 Jul 2007 at 14:53

Good news everyone, as some of you may already know I received £60 from Mr Green on Saturday and was taking a bit of time to consider what to do with the cash. I got home on Sunday night to find an e-mail by Explicit (thanks man) and one from paypal stating another £60 had been sent to me by Mr Green :eek:

!!

There was a note with the paypal receipt saying the following:

Although our situation is resolved in my eyes, I still see fit to send this 60 pounds as a gesture of goodwill and should ensure you haven't lost out due to your mistake, also you probably need it more than I do - I had intended to do this on pay day however I am now in a financial position to do so due to both of my auctions doing better than expected hence having some 'free' money.

The events that I said happened are actually the truth as strange as it may sound - should I have been a less discerning member of the public i would have just said box was empty, you may remember watchdog doing a whole piece on papal a while back.

With regards the forum - i was made aware of this on 17th by tom_perry_the_fool (appropriate name) however am yet to read it in any detail.

I'm sure from now on you will double check all parcels before sending and please please please start including an invoice with your details and the intended recipients and write the RTS on this ensures the recipient has a way of contacting you, and ensures you double check the details.

I have one request - please don't make the forum aware of this until Wednesday as I have been advised it may be interesting/entertaining,

Regards

Mr M green

It seems he has finally come to his senses, probably after reading Explicits posts on here. I can do nothing but thank all of you for your support throughout the past week and I don't think I would have got much or even anything back without you. I am really surprised at how much this topic has taken off and don't want it to be forgotten as it could be useful in the future if something like this ever occurs again.

As for linking Mr Green to this topic, no it was not me and I don't know what he is on about when he states in one of his e-mails. All I can say is whoever it was must have a very sad life as if Mr Green hadn't come to his senses and this had went all the way to the SCC then him knowing about this thread would have damaged my chances of winning greatly.

Anyway I am pleased it hasn't went that far and I have got back what I wanted in the end and thats what this topic was about originally so happy days

Again a big thanks to you all :cool:

Hyper · 23 Jul 2007 at 16:24

Meatball said:
WD Explicit, you should be awarded 'Man of Honour' .

Another vote here, couldn't have done it without him

Hyper · 25 Jul 2007 at 21:56

I havent heard anything from Mr Green, I would love to know who tipped him off mind.

Hyper · 29 Jul 2007 at 21:47

How do I go about getting this thread archieved then :confused:

Hyper · 30 Jul 2007 at 14:54

For those who wanted to know the advice Explicit gave me via e-mail, here it is.

Hi Hyper, it's Explicit here.

I just wanted to ask how you're getting on.

Have you decided what you want to do? Are you happy with £60? What have you done with the money (hopefully you haven't done anything with it yet)?

Also, Mr Green claims that he has not received your letter yet. Can you check the Royal Mail website for status?

Also, can you verify if the events mentioned by Mr Green are true:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9756755&postcount=338
Feel free to give your own account of details.

If you already have a solicitor or legal adviser then I'll leave you to it

Anything you state in emails will be kept completely confidential and will not be shared with anyone. I hope you can do the same for me

All the best,

Explicit

Not that it has a lot of revelence now, but it just shows how willing Explicit was willing to do anything to help.

MOH should be awarded in my opinion.

Hyper · 22 Aug 2007 at 01:32

So how do I know if this was archived then :confused:

Hyper · 22 Feb 2009 at 21:27

It amazes me how many times this thread keeps getting dragged back up.

Not that its a bad thing, its a good read for those who havent already done so.

As for creating a movie, I want a 40% cut