Sepp Blatter Appologises To England and Mexico

[Tummy]

People make mistakes, just like Terry / Upson made mistakes for the England goals.

At 2-2 it could well of been a different half time talk, but England weren't good enough to warrant winning the game.

Germany were much better.

I don't "blame" the decision for England going out, England, at every level weren't good enough and haven't been good enough for a very long time.

First goal, scored from a goal kick since 1966 at a World Cup.

 

[goonerfan]

We could bicker about it for ages, but it doesn't even matter whether Lampard's not-goal would have affected the outcome (I'm with Tummy, Germany could have had four or five before Upson got us back in it).

The fact is under the laws of the game, Lampard scored a goal, and it wasn't given! That is just retarded when you can quickly and simply show otherwise using technology that has existed for years now. It makes a mockery of ideals like fair play and respect, when referees can't implement the basic rules of the game! If the ball crosses the white line between the two white upright sticks, and under the horizontal white stick it done be a goal...

 

[Tummy]

I don't think it has anything to do with fair play and respect, people make mistakes. They wrongly allowed a goal in the '66 World Cup final for England V Germany.

Germany were unlucky to be going in at half time 2-1 up, could have been a lot worse for England, at no point in this competition have they been good enough.

Technology, the debate has been done to death and it would ruin football.

 

[physichull]

I don't care any more, Footballers ain't worth the steam off my ****. All these cut backs on Normal people & these ******* are on 100k a week it disgusts me.
Ban football I say !!! How can those 23 players come back here & earn the money they do after showing just how Crap they really are on the World stage.


/Bitter.

And Blatter can suck the Nuts out of my crap through a straw made of my *****.

Yup!

 

[EdwardTeach]

I like linakers proposal that you could only appeal to the video ref a limited number of times in a match - this should limit the number of disruptions.

 

[Tummy]

Everyone does know that the England players give ALL the money they earn for playing for England to charity?

 

[Weebull]

So because of when the errors occured, and the outcomes of the match, they're irrelevant?

So if, say, a team is winning 5-0 with less than ten minutes to go, and one of their players, for a laugh, decides to pick up the ball and throw it into the opposition net, we should let it stand? Because hey, it's irrelevant with regard to the win, eh?

Just because Sunday's two glaring mistakes hurt two teams who inevitably lost quite severely, is a terrible reason to ignore them. The same mistakes can just as easily occur during crucial moments. What if Argetina's first had been there only goal?

And seriously, stop saying it would "ruin" football. Because that's nonsense. Cricket isn't ruined by technology. Tennis isn't ruined by technology. Rubgy blah blah etc.

 

[Tummy]

I like linakers proposal that you could only appeal to the video ref a limited number of times in a match - this should limit the number of disruptions.

What about that last minute offside goal that was given?

It's a load of ****, technology, unfortunatly would ruin football and my interest in it.

 

[Tummy]

And seriously, stop saying it would "ruin" football. Because it's nonsense.

Point out, why it wouldn't "ruin" football.

Technology would only offer benfit to the top clubs, the ones you watch and Sky promote, the Premier league. Who's going to pay for technology for the league 2 sides?

Whats going to happen when Chelsea go down to a league 2 side in the F.A. Cup and there are no replays because the F.A. / Sky won't pay for them to have it?

Football is a fast, flowing game, why stop it to "replay" mistakes? They've always happened and football has done quite well without it so far in its history.

Who's going to pay the extra official to sit in front of a television? Should we just have Andy Gray do it?

Debate would be killed, Football fans love to talk about the offside decision that shouldn't of been given.

Are FIFA going to pay for technology in all the leagues?
Football isn't as slow or stop start as other sports that have technology.
It would create a have V have not in regards to tech. Rich clubs have money, skint clubs don't but on the pitch they can't change decisions.

 

[jakeke]

I think goal line technology is a good idea. Not so thrilled on technology all over the pitch but goals are so important to football, that if a goal goes in, it should count, all the time, never an exception.

 

[Vonhelmet]

If the goal was allowed to stand it would make all the difference. The half-time team talk wouldn't be the same. There would be no need to press everyone forward for the equaliser, and so there wouldn't have been no counter attacks from the Germans. Sure you can assume that they could have won the game with a 4-2 score line, but it wouldn't have been the same 2nd half that we watched.

It's pure speculation that we would have fared any better if that goal had been allowed. No one can possibly know either way. At 2-2 we might have been complacent and gone on to let 3 more in, who knows.

 

[Spud21]

Cause and effect, there's no telling what would have happened in those games had the officials got the decisions right.

At 2-2 England wouldn't have been throwing half of their defenders into the German box leaving the back door wide open to counter attacks.

At 0-0 Mexico looked comfortable, the goal hurt them mentally and they gave away a second goal away shortly after due to lack of concentration, could have been a very different game if Mexico had nicked the first goal.

Officials are there to enforce the rules of the game, if they can't do it properly then give them help.

Well we would have been, neither came directly from breakdowns in open play, they came from set pieces, so the defenders would have been there anyway, germany were only leaving ozil up at set pieces, so we were only leaving Barry and cole i think it was back, we could have been 1-0 up and the outcome would have still been the same, unless you are 2 or 3 up you only ever leave 1 extra man back. It just so happens that Barry is a sack of turd so got done, unless we were a few goals up that wouldn't have changed.

 

[Tummy]

What about fouls that lead up to goals?

If it's a foul and wrongly given, why should the goal still stand? There has been a mistake in not giving the foul, and as a by product a team has scored when they shouldn't of.

In part, I think the idea of having a sensor in the goal to show of the ball has crossed a line is a good idea, but how many of these decisions do you hear about a week? Just the ones in the Premier league, you don't hear League 2 sides shouting for technology because they were "robbed" of 3 points or if they do, nobody listens

 

[Tummy]

While officials make mistakes, over the course of a game and season they make more right decisions then wrong ones.

The standard of officiating in this country needs to be better.

 

[FishFluff]

Personally I think that there should be technology used for offside and goal line decisions. There's generally a natural break in play when you'd use these anyway so where's the problem?

 

[Tummy]

Personally I think that there should be technology used for offside and goal line decisions. There's generally a natural break in play when you'd use these anyway so where's the problem?

What about paying for those lower league sides and poorer leagues all across the world?

We only get to see replays of the Sky games and they harp on about wrong descisions and how it affects play.

 

[Yas786]

What about fouls that lead up to goals?

If it's a foul and wrongly given, why should the goal still stand? There has been a mistake in not giving the foul, and as a by product a team has scored when they shouldn't of.

In part, I think the idea of having a sensor in the goal to show of the ball has crossed a line is a good idea, but how many of these decisions do you hear about a week? Just the ones in the Premier league, you don't hear League 2 sides shouting for technology because they were "robbed" of 3 points or if they do, nobody listens

Easily sorted imo...just keep the goal line tech for the most important games/tournaments ie EPL, WC and Euros.

And keep it at goal line tech....dont let video tech be used for fouls, red cards or offsides etc etc.

 

[fez]

It wouldnt ruin football if you introduced an appeals system where they get a few a game. To all the people that say that we are just bitter because we went out that is rubbish. We are annoyed because at a pivotal moment in the game the ref got it massively wrong.

I have seen plenty of games where one team could have scored 10 in the first half but the other team hangs on an nicks a goal. But what if one of those 10 chances was offside and the goal was allowed to stand? The team under the kosh then loses 3-4 nil.

You cannot predict the outcome of football. One decision can send the game in a different direction. Does anyone fancy explaining why they dont want at least goal line technology?

All I seem to hear is 'uhhh, i dont want it, england played crap this world cup, dont make me explain'

 

[Weebull]

Point out, why it wouldn't "ruin" football.

Why should I?

It won't ruin anythign for me because I'd happily still watch. Tell me why you wouldn't. You're the one that would change.

Technology would only offer benfit to the top clubs, the ones you watch and Sky promote, the Premier league. Who's going to pay for technology for the league 2 sides?

Well for one it depends upon the level of technology we're talking about here. I don't think a chip in the ball/goal would be overly expensive, and I'm pretty sure that's what the FA is there for. They provide the referees, they can provide the tech.

I get the gist of your point though, and it's that good old "football should be the same at all levels" argument, which is silly anyway. League 2 doesn't get the same standard of refs as the Premiership. It doesn't get the extra linesman behind the goal like the Europa league does. Hackney marshes don't even have linesmen. Football isn't the same at all levels at the moment. This wouldn't change anything.

Whats going to happen when Chelsea go down to a league 2 side in the F.A. Cup and there are no replays because the F.A. / Sky won't pay for them to have it?

Then that would be bloody stupid of the FA/whoever. But your hypothetical scenario is hardly conclusive proof of a broken system. Especially when the system hasn't even been implemented.

Football is a fast, flowing game, why stop it to "replay" mistakes?

Who says it has to stop every time? In terms of video replays, I personally favour the idea that the TV official would be the one in charge of calling when to stop, rather than the ref. If he spots a mistake within an allowed period, he radios the ref to stop, before double-checking the outcome.

That doesn't strike me as particularly different to when the ref consults his linesman about something now.

They've always happened and football has done quite well without it so far in its history.

Football managed "quite well" without a backpass rule, didn't it? Managed without an offside rule too.

If you mean "quite well" as in "sometimes teams have been completely unfairly punished for a complete mistake by officials", then yeah, football's coped fine over the years.

We have the ability to make results more fair and actually based upon the abilities of the two teams playing. Why do you want to be a luddite and not let this happen?

Debate would be killed, Football fans love to talk about the offside decision that shouldn't of been given.

Oh, this old chesnut. Because no-one ever talks about tactics/individual players/managerial decisions/etc in football do they? No, the only thing we talk about is refereeing mistakes. K.

 

[Participant]

Technology would ruin football.

Shouldn't we at least make absolutely sure by trialling the technology?

Do England and Mexico fans really think they'd of been a different out come in the games had those goals been allowed / disallowed?

Germany hammered England, 4-2 instead of 4-1 ?

Lack of tech had nothing to do with England losing to Germany, so from my point of view it's not an excuse. I just think that firstly, some games are in fact so-affected by bad decisions and secondly, the 'would it have won't it have' factor needs to be removed.